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[Announcement] Server Merge & FAQ

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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited May 28
    Greta wrote: »

    Greta, for once, please read. It wasn't an insult, I was just trying to help.
    Please respect that, there's no need to be so defensive about reiterating the rules.
    ToS states that users are to be constructive, and that you're not here to contact the devs specifically.
    If you wanted clarification on the rules, all you had to do was PM a Vmod. (They don't check every thread for questions.)
    They likely would've told you that constructive pessimism must be courteous, and not doom ridden.
    (IE- "Ferghus might need/want to try XYZ to get a new hammer in the future for A to happen," rather than, "If Ferghus doesn't get a new hammer in the future, my weapon will always break.")
    If you don't know how to speak distaste constructively other than, "This will 100% fail," then you will indeed be docked points as the mods deem it necessary.
    If you have any further issues or questions as to what FUD denotes, I heavily suggest sending a PM to a Vmod.

  • HelsaHelsa
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    Helsa wrote: »
    You are not staff nor does this answer the request. I would like staff to please give an example of constructive concerns that are not FUD but also pessimistic?

    If you want them to answer that, you'll just have to PM them for a list.
    I gave you the rules, examples, I tried to help.

    I see. Let's just clear up some things about the actual things that people are worried about.

    1) Will the merge go smoothly? We, on the outside, won't know until it happens. Either way, all we can do is watch. My opinion is that it will, for the most part, go reasonably smoothly. Why do I think so? Because Nexon still has the old data center to practice and debug the process. They've also been planning it for almost a year.

    2) Will names get stolen? Yes, they will. BUT It will only be a short term problem. People are going to raise a big stink over it, as well they should. So Nexon will have to create a separate field to uniquely identify each character, not based on their name. This will free up the name field and allow for unlimited duplication. That with a free name change event and everyone loves Nexon again.

    3) Will other stuff break? Maybe, and it'll be fixed.

    4) Will Alexina be merged into Nao? Eventually; it is inevitable. When? Who knows. The merge happening now did not occur in isolation of the decade of kvetching about it in the forums here. So, if you want Alexina merged sooner keep on kvetching about it; I intend to.

    5) That a merge is happening at all. Obviously this would come as a shock to folks opposed to it all along, but at the end of the day, that ship has sailed.

    For the most part, as a life-long, pro-merge advocate, my expectations are fairly optimistic. I could be wrong; we'll see. Anyway, you'll note I have not been saying much about these issues directly in the last few days, because of my over-all optimism. My issues now are with how one can express constructive concerns that are pessimistic without them, in a knee-jerk fashion, being deleted as FUD or being censured for them. Once we have a satisfactory answer for that, I will have corollary issues stemming from it. One thing at a time though.
  • CrimsCrims
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    edited May 28
    Just update the FAQ please. We're ALL going nuts. 9dnGeIh.png
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited May 28
    Gaea wrote: »
    Just update the FAQ please. We're ALL going nuts. 9dnGeIh.png

    Confusion is contagious.
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  • CrimsCrims
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    Go to bed Pixie. smh.
    Darkpixie99
  • HelsaHelsa
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    edited May 29
    Gaea wrote: »
    Just update the FAQ please. We're ALL going nuts. 9dnGeIh.png

    Agreed. Honestly they should have had all the information available from the get-go. Although, anything that happens can be remedied, even if it requires a rollback, full disclosure would have prevented a lot of anxiety. But they insist on holding their cards close to their chest, rather than being fully transparent with the community. Okay, full disclosure might result in getting yelled at by the community, so what?
  • AlshianAlshian
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    Like wot my mum once told me, if you gave out the truth sooner the fall would feel less heavy from holding back or lying at all before the truth is harshly shown.

    Pretty much players will still bark but if the damage is done without warning the barks get more louder and with a lot more quitters for this game to even be able to sustain themselves since I bet most quitters would be your pocket moneys still buying gacha.

    Is what your trying to say yes? Mum knows desu.
  • WoollywitchWoollywitch
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    If my clothing or items go missing and I cant get them back, that would definitely be a quit for me. I like my name but Im not too concerned about losing it. Just dear lord, keep my items safe. I spent so long collecting them.
  • PlatinaKokiPlatinaKoki
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    edited June 1
    Buffalos wrote: »
    Its not FUD. I have the right to have legitimate concerns, and to voice them.

    You're absolutely allowed to voice your concerns about the merge in a constructive fashion! However, it stretches into the fear and uncertainty aspects of FUD when you open with "this will only end with the game shutting down for good" or "Nexon's gonna break it."

    Fluffalo, you know Nexon as much as I do.

    Nexon and "competent" don't even go in the same sentence unless you add "is not" between them.

    Kind of sad you're white-knighting them now.
    Helsa wrote: »
    I would like an answer from staff regarding this.



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    How cute. Little miss backseat moderator.
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  • DragoolfireDragoolfire
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    PlatinaKoki learn to spell peoples names right.
    Darkpixie99
  • BuffalosBuffalos
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    Fluffalo, you know Nexon as much as I do.

    Nexon and "competent" don't even go in the same sentence unless you add "is not" between them.
    Even so, that won't excuse you or me from rules. If you can't be constructive about it, by Nexon rules I will be able to remove.
    Kind of sad you're white-knighting them now.
    I fail to see how any of what I said was white knighting. If you knew me as well as you're seeming to claim, you'd know my opinions on this already and you clearly don't so don't pretend.
    WolfsingerDarkpixie99