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Final Strike and Stampede

HelsaHelsa
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edited January 17 in General Chat
I finally got around to training them.
1) Stampede is another schlemiel skill but me rike valley much!
2) Final Strike is nice too. How exactly is it different than Final Hit?

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  • xDerpxxDerpx
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    FS is just a downgrade version of FH. Considering FS doesnt even have as much reforge like FH does
  • LutetiumLutetium
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    1. Oy vey! this is BLATENT Anti-Timeshiftstampedeism as a Giant who uses this to gather golems in abyssal lord I will not stand for such slander!
    2. Higher per-hit multiplier of 700% with 1h weapons 840% with 2h and with Massive Despair blade available to craft and add an additional 1.1x damage bringing it up to 924%, but massively slower wind up time of 2 seconds per hit for the first 4, 1 second per hit for the next 6, and then a slower fixed 500ms per hit for the rest of the duration compared to Final Hit's potential 400ms per hit for the full duration or 300ms with Relentless Assault active.
    Final Strike also suffers from a fixed 20% splash damage ratio, a minuscule 168% of your damage range with a normal 2h or 184.8% with a Massive Despair Sword (140% with 1h but what are you splashing with a 1h), compared to Final Hit using your weapon's splash damage ratio, 70% for Fanatic and Borealis, 90% for Divine and Soluna resulting in 280% and 360% your damage range as splash for Final Hit making it a very capable AOE skill when considering the +300 slash range from 2h sword erg that results in slash reaching across 5 provo walls
    One of the biggest discrepancies showing the developers favoritism to Humans however is the fact Final Strike consumes durability, Final Hit however does not making it borderline free to use 10x repair enchants for a Human but hugely draining on Giants for only a little higher total damage over skill duration to a single target.
    xDerpx wrote: »
    Considering FS doesnt even have as much reforge like FH does
    Theres Cooldown, Duration, and Teleport Range on the same slots and the only difference is Duration is 1s instead of 1.5s per level, but FS has an additional 10s basic duration so the end result is 70s duration and 50s cd for either skill.
  • CrimsCrims
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    Are you jewish?
    LutetiumBlissfulkill
  • DemoncatDemoncat
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    never cared for the despair weapons
  • HelsaHelsa
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    Crims wrote: »
    Are you jewish?

    Schlemiel and oy vey are yiddish terms. I believe they were mearly responding to my use of a yiddish word with a yiddish idiom of their own. I'm not Jewish but I do use yiddish words from time to time in posts because I like to. As far as I know yiddish words don't have the same cultural/ethnic restrictions on whom can use them as say the N-word does. So quit kvetching already.
    Mabi6Kensamaofmari
  • BlissfulkillBlissfulkill
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    edited January 18
    Lutetium wrote: »
    1. Oy vey! this is BLATENT Anti-Timeshiftstampedeism as a Giant who uses this to gather golems in abyssal lord I will not stand for such slander!
    2. Higher per-hit multiplier of 700% with 1h weapons 840% with 2h and with Massive Despair blade available to craft and add an additional 1.1x damage bringing it up to 924%, but massively slower wind up time of 2 seconds per hit for the first 4, 1 second per hit for the next 6, and then a slower fixed 500ms per hit for the rest of the duration compared to Final Hit's potential 400ms per hit for the full duration or 300ms with Relentless Assault active.
    Final Strike also suffers from a fixed 20% splash damage ratio, a minuscule 168% of your damage range with a normal 2h or 184.8% with a Massive Despair Sword (140% with 1h but what are you splashing with a 1h), compared to Final Hit using your weapon's splash damage ratio, 70% for Fanatic and Borealis, 90% for Divine and Soluna resulting in 280% and 360% your damage range as splash for Final Hit making it a very capable AOE skill when considering the +300 slash range from 2h sword erg that results in slash reaching across 5 provo walls
    One of the biggest discrepancies showing the developers favoritism to Humans however is the fact Final Strike consumes durability, Final Hit however does not making it borderline free to use 10x repair enchants for a Human but hugely draining on Giants for only a little higher total damage over skill duration to a single target.
    xDerpx wrote: »
    Considering FS doesnt even have as much reforge like FH does
    Theres Cooldown, Duration, and Teleport Range on the same slots and the only difference is Duration is 1s instead of 1.5s per level, but FS has an additional 10s basic duration so the end result is 70s duration and 50s cd for either skill.

    Once you get down to it, accumulating gold is the true endgame.

    Gotta build that wealth swagger so you can destroy the market, then screw around in town all day and AFK. :p
    Lutetium
  • LutetiumLutetium
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    Once you get down to it, accumulating gold is the true endgame.

    Gotta build that wealth swagger so you can destroy the market, then screw around in town all day and AFK. :p

    Based redpilled and ~ ~ E N L I G H T E N E D ~ ~
    Helsa wrote: »
    As far as I know yiddish words don't have the same cultural/ethnic restrictions on whom can use them as say the N-word does. So quit kvetching already.

    As a 1~3% genetic Jew I give you a schlemiel pass, although some may kvetch about it since I'm a bit over 70% native american, but I can just tell them to get off my land :)
    Why am I answering the FSQ (Final Strike Question) with my genetics test results
  • CrimsCrims
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    Helsa wrote: »
    Crims wrote: »
    Are you jewish?

    Schlemiel and oy vey are yiddish terms. I believe they were mearly responding to my use of a yiddish word with a yiddish idiom of their own. I'm not Jewish but I do use yiddish words from time to time in posts because I like to. As far as I know yiddish words don't have the same cultural/ethnic restrictions on whom can use them as say the N-word does. So quit kvetching already.

    Means nothing to us.
  • HelsaHelsa
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    edited January 18
    Crims wrote: »
    Helsa wrote: »
    Crims wrote: »
    Are you jewish?

    Schlemiel and oy vey are yiddish terms. I believe they were mearly responding to my use of a yiddish word with a yiddish idiom of their own. I'm not Jewish but I do use yiddish words from time to time in posts because I like to. As far as I know yiddish words don't have the same cultural/ethnic restrictions on whom can use them as say the N-word does. So quit kvetching already.

    Means nothing to us.

    Fortunately, if anyone is reading this then that means they have an internet connexion, and so can look up any words or idioms that they are unfamiliar with; I included a link and everything! Oh, it is to kvell!