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Dan tests are unbalanced and unfair

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  • BlortadBlortad
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    Felice wrote: »
    Having skim-read most of this, and having done only the combat mastery tests, I can tell that the point of the "Boss" is being missed by almost everyone complaining about it.

    the Combat Mastery Test's Boss, and I'm pretty sure all Close Combat Skill's Tests' Boss, is a Lycanthrope. This is a mob, that, unless you can kill it in one hit, you MUST Windmill it to reset its AI, or else it will "Level Up" and recover all of its health.

    after my very first attempt at Combat Mastery when I tried using traditional methods of fighting the Lycanthrope, and only getting a B Rank, I learned quickly that the "Boss" of each test is a giant punching bag, designed to be a hard counter for each test, purely to farm "attack" points. Ideally, you want roughly 1:00 to 1:30 when you get to the "Boss" with any hopes of getting an S or SS rank upon completion. The goal of these tests isn't necessarily to kill all the mobs that spawn, but to prove that you know HOW to use the skills and how targets behave when hit by them.

    This is what I've gather in my several attempts in the new system, when compared to my knowledge of the old one.

    Ya, I can tell you skimmed alright. Everyone complaining about the "boss" of the missions is complaining about the GOLEM at the end of the MAGIC tests, specifically lightningbolt and icebolt, not the lycanthrope from the combat tests. When you are given a golem to fight using icebolt and have to get about 1/3 of your overall points from it unless you get insane luck with crits leading up to the golem, the only thing you can to is ping it a couple times before it ruthlessly pounds you into a bloody pile of goo and end up failing the test.
  • OriaOria
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    edited August 26, 2017
    i'm personally having issues with daning healing to dan 2 i don't get enough points for dan 2. how am i to adv when the mod just doesn't get hit enough? on top of that because i "pass" i'm unable to try again.so yes i feel some of the skills are unfair.

    Have you tried healing without the Tikka healing wand? You'll heal less so you can heal more times for points ^.^
    I kinda realized that while trying to get SS rank last night.. ^.^;;
    And yes, the AI fighting is so random..sometimes the chick wins too quickly with crits and sometimes the time runs out before >.<;;
  • ErorservErorserv
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  • BlortadBlortad
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    "Git gud" isnt an option for people who are only failing because of the unavoidable lag they experience because they live in Europe and the dev team for this game is either unable or unwilling, probably unwilling, to write netcode that actually works more then 10% of the time.
    Kazuhanori
  • AngelsamaAngelsama
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    I agree and yes they are unbalanced and as we've all pointed out have not been tested. We also agree that apparently, these tests are for a group of people not a single person so they will either revamp it which should not have happened if it was tested first or leave it like this until enough people complain. Also, I live in NA and we have fios@1000 and mabi still lag for me and my hubby at random- no other game lags like this either.. just mabi.
    Blortad
  • ErorservErorserv
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    Blortad wrote: »
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    "Git gud" isnt an option for people who are only failing because of the unavoidable lag they experience because they live in Europe and the dev team for this game is either unable or unwilling, probably unwilling, to write netcode that actually works more then 10% of the time.

    Excuses excuses
  • BlortadBlortad
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    Blortad wrote: »
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    "Git gud" isnt an option for people who are only failing because of the unavoidable lag they experience because they live in Europe and the dev team for this game is either unable or unwilling, probably unwilling, to write netcode that actually works more then 10% of the time.

    Excuses excuses

    So... what? Are you saying there ARENT people who play NA Mabinogi from Europe or that people who play from Europe don't have constant lag that they cant do anything about? Hate to burst your bubble there buddy, but both those things are true. As it stands right now your ability to finish these tests is based primarily on your geographical location, followed by the quality of your internet connection, followed lastly by skill at the game. If you do not meet both of the first two requirements, the third is meaningless.
  • TNinjaTNinja
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    edited August 26, 2017
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    When something is mathematically impossible, you can't "git gud".


    You need luck to change the math.
    Kazuhanori
  • ErorservErorserv
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    Blortad wrote: »
    So... what? Are you saying there ARENT people who play NA Mabinogi from Europe or that people who play from Europe don't have constant lag that they cant do anything about? Hate to burst your bubble there buddy, but both those things are true. As it stands right now your ability to finish these tests is based primarily on your geographical location, followed by the quality of your internet connection, followed lastly by skill at the game. If you do not meet both of the first two requirements, the third is meaningless.

    That's exactly right. I'm playing from Aus and having no issue.
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited August 26, 2017
    Have you considered disabling the monstrous list of useless garbage you may have running on your system?

    The following should be of great service to you if you're not sure of what to kill and what to leave alone.

    http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/

    Erorserv
  • TNinjaTNinja
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Have you considered disabling the monstrous list of useless garbage you may have running on your system?

    The following should be of great service to you if you're not sure of what to kill and what to leave alone.

    http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/

    What is this list, and how do I use it?
  • FavrielFavriel
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    Would love to see you guys that are saying the tests aren't hard I want to see you get an ss rank dan3 for magnum shot with screenshot proof and then comeback and say it's balanced.
    Blortad
  • BlortadBlortad
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    Favriel wrote: »
    Would love to see you guys that are saying the tests aren't hard I want to see you get an ss rank dan3 for magnum shot with screenshot proof and then comeback and say it's balanced.

    Bolt spells excluding firebolt too
    Favriel
  • SherriSherri
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    Guys, calm down
    it's just a funny sarcastic meme
    it's practically what the advancement guide is telling us anyway
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    thats how you meant it.. right?
    Erorserv
  • BlortadBlortad
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    Sherri wrote: »
    Guys, calm down
    it's just a funny sarcastic meme
    it's practically what the advancement guide is telling us anyway
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    thats how you meant it.. right?

    no, he was serious, look at his other posts
    Erorserv
  • BlortadBlortad
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    edited August 26, 2017
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Have you considered disabling the monstrous list of useless garbage you may have running on your system?

    The following should be of great service to you if you're not sure of what to kill and what to leave alone.

    (shady link omitted)

    How do you not see a problem with requiring a massive number of tweaks to your system, directed by some super shady website, to get a game this simple to run in any playable capacity? I don't need this giant list of system tweaks for literally any other game to function just fine, only for Mabi. Are you seriously trying to say that players are expected to go through and perform a giant list of tasks on their computer, many of which are dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, just so they can reduce their lag enough to be able to stand a chance at these tests? I mean really, this site literally directs you to download a script written by some random guy, it probably will ask you to disable your antivirus before running it too il bet, don't know, not about to download some random unknown script.

    The point here is, if they aren't going to fix their game enough so that the level of precision requires for these is actually possible, they need to make it so its possible in the games current state. Expecting the laggy af NA servers to be able to do bs like these tests is the definition of having your cake and eating it too.
    ShouK
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited August 26, 2017
    Blortad wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Have you considered disabling the monstrous list of useless garbage you may have running on your system?

    The following should be of great service to you if you're not sure of what to kill and what to leave alone.

    (shady link omitted)

    How do you not see a problem with requiring a massive number of tweaks to your system, directed by some super shady website, to get a game this simple to run in any playable capacity? I don't need this giant list of system tweaks for literally any other game to function just fine, only for Mabi. Are you seriously trying to say that players are expected to go through and perform a giant list of tasks on their computer, many of which are dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, just so they can reduce their lag enough to be able to stand a chance at these tests? I mean really, this site literally directs you to download a script written by some random guy, it probably will ask you to disable your antivirus before running it too il bet, don't know, not about to download some random unknown script.

    The point here is, if they aren't going to fix their game enough so that the level of precision requires for these is actually possible, they need to make it so its possible in the games current state. Expecting the laggy af NA servers to be able to do bs like these tests is the definition of having your cake and eating it too.
    That has to be the dumbest pile of paranoid psychobabble I have read in years. The list I gave you is the default configurations for all services currently running in Windows (services.msc). The research provides the most stable configuration of what services you can safely turn off and what you should leave running. If you don't understand what you're reading, fine, but don't try to insult me. -- and no .. you're not really being asked to "download a script" written by a random guy (they're called registry configurations and they can be read in plain English via Notepad). Pardon me for thinking you had a brain between the two ears on your head. I will know better next time not to provide you with anything above a kindergarten level of intelligence. ~ I wish you lots of luck figuring this out on your own, because no one who actually knows what they are doing should have to kiss your nasty attitude on the lips; whilst trying to pamper you with an answer you can teach to a moron. ~ smh
    If the above is truly over your head and you're not inclined to perform any educated steps on your computer; You can automate the above with Razer Cortex: Game Booster (ioBit), but omg ... don't do that ... it might actually solve the problem and completely invalidate your scribbles against Nexon... ~ wouldn't want that to happen ..

    Felice
  • BlortadBlortad
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    Oh, so I guess we're just ignoring the part where it says the phrase "using madbomb122’s script" then huh? If literally telling you in plain english to run a script written by an alias is somehow not telling you to run a script then I guess this isn't a forum, these aren't complaints about aggravating bugs and features, mabinogi's netcode isn't the most useless piece of trash ever mislabeled as functional, and there should never be anything done to fix it.
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited August 27, 2017
    Blortad wrote: »
    Oh, so I guess we're just ignoring the part where it says the phrase "using madbomb122’s script" then huh? If literally telling you in plain english to run a script written by an alias is somehow not telling you to run a script then I guess this isn't a forum, these aren't complaints about aggravating bugs and features, mabinogi's netcode isn't the most useless piece of trash ever mislabeled as functional, and there should never be anything done to fix it.
    Oh.. you mean the registry files I mentioned.. yeah .. they are prepacked for lazy douchecanoes who cant write their own files. ~ or are two lazy to read the list at the bottom of the page and decide for themselves what to leave on and what to turn off. ~ ... --
    I provided the lists (one for each version of windows with any relevance) under the assumption it would aid you in learning what you can and cannot turn off (to increase system performance). ~ Don't go straight to the one-click powershell methods, but instead focus on the content.

    ~ Learn something.
  • BlortadBlortad
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Blortad wrote: »
    Oh, so I guess we're just ignoring the part where it says the phrase "using madbomb122’s script" then huh? If literally telling you in plain english to run a script written by an alias is somehow not telling you to run a script then I guess this isn't a forum, these aren't complaints about aggravating bugs and features, mabinogi's netcode isn't the most useless piece of trash ever mislabeled as functional, and there should never be anything done to fix it.
    Oh.. you mean the registry files I mentioned.. yeah .. they are prepacked for lazy douchecanoes who cant write their own files. (or are two lazy to read the list at the bottom of the page and decide for themselves what to leave on and what to turn off. ~ ... I'm done talking to you ... --
    PowerShell Script: “One click adjustments of service settings” that were previously done with my registry files and online Custom Services Registry Creation Tools are now adjustable. ~

    Exactly, prepacked by some random guy, the purpose of its creation and what its presented as doing are irrelevant. Unless you have an amount of expertise adequate for determining whether a script is malicious or not for yourself, downloading any script from a non-professional third party source, and sometimes even from some professional third party sources, can be dangerous.
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