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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited March 4, 2019
    Gaea wrote: »
    Enough money is not enough money.

    Pft, Amazon can literally make profits off anything these days.
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    Liberate wrote: »
    I can't help but imagine Amazon wanting Nexon only for the free cash cow for shipping merch from the KR stores.
    Profitable, but can they even code?
    As in game developers? No, not really. But they have plenty of software engineers, and their only real inclusion towards video game development is their game engine Lumberyard, which is a revamped version of CryEngine that's free to use. The only real reason why I see Amazon just dips in for a bid is just to see their hand not only in the video game industry further but to tap the Asian video game market at the same time. They own twitch, and see that competitive games have potential; and where are most competitive games are most popular in and often held? Korea. They most likely see Nexon developers as experienced Korean game developers, and use them to push more towards competitive gaming than focusing anymore on MMOs. Worst case scenario is that they drop all of their MMO support and let them to rot, which seems to be the case for 90% of these bidders anyway.

    Yeah, I know. I posted a response to my own comment above. Twice, now.
    But yes, Nexon has been holding onto a potential that they refused to tap into for over eleven years.
    Mabinogi has become a well in which appears dried up, and crusty.
    The gachapon model is old, and now officially illegal. (Confirmed by Belgium.)
    There are so many problems in Nexon games that Amazon can profit off not only purchasing, but forwarding to hired professionals to fix.
    There's something people like to refer to as "The 2019 Clap," and if Amazon is publicized in fixing these Loot Box problems, they most definitely will profit. (Off publicity alone, things will spread like wildfire nostalgia.)
    If Amazon has to bid away a few twenty billion dollars to get Nexon, it's probably a drop in the bucket at this point.
    Twitch partnership will only make things easier to get Mabinogi back on the radar if they decide to officially refurbish it, and announce the steps they're taking on test servers.
    Think of this like Amazon seeing Nintendo potential in Nexon KR, not knowing how much more money they'll be sinking into it.
    It'll cause problems for sure, but Mabinogi remains a unique MMORPG.
    Everyone wants that kinda of game to make cash, so they'll make it work. (Fifty billion dollars later, and all Nexon problems are fixed.)
    Shovel, meet grave.
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  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Well based off the recent update, we don't have to worry about Amazon, Disney, EA, Comcast.

    Do have to worry about Tencent and Kakao being likely the frontrunners.
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited March 4, 2019
    Well based off the recent update, we don't have to worry about Amazon, Disney, EA, Comcast.

    Do have to worry about Tencent and Kakao being likely the frontrunners.

    Shame, I would've welcomed our new Amazon overlords. It seems they realized the depths of Nexon's prior branch history.
    (I'm looking at you, EU. You died because KR simply didn't care.)
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    Netmarble would've been fine, but Tencent... I dunno. Seems like they have their hands full.
    Kakao has an English site, they seem... wise. (Wise enough to prepare, at least.)
    Regretfully... they seem to be more app focused.
    I highly anticipate it would be unwise for them to lose profits off dumping the MMORPG teams.

    My favorite line of the article:
    "For the sake of the Korean game industry, it’s probably best if the company ends up in the hands of another game publisher rather than an equity firm."
  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Netmarble likely going in with MBK Partners.

    2 companies with gaming experience and 3 equity firms. Kim is going to look at which option will give the least trouble but also the best value.
    Because, yknow, regulators are cray cray.
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    Netmarble likely going in with MBK Partners.

    2 companies with gaming experience and 3 equity firms. Kim is going to look at which option will give the least trouble but also the best value.
    Because, yknow, regulators are cray cray.

    Now all we do is wait for more news.
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  • LiberateLiberate
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    Here's hoping to getting an actual KR game company to own Nexon. Too bad Amazon dipped out though, it would've been more interesting to see how they would revamp Nexon's services to work with Amazon prime.
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited March 4, 2019
    Liberate wrote: »
    Here's hoping to getting an actual KR game company to own Nexon. Too bad Amazon dipped out though, it would've been more interesting to see how they would revamp Nexon's services to work with Amazon prime.

    Oh yeah, that would've been genius. But also so dang costly. XD
    I think Amazon actually won from pulling out in this race, oof.
    (Who knows what problems were left behind unattended.)
    *Mabinogi coughs up blood*
    Mabinogi says: "Nexon... I don't feel so good. I'm old... and illegal... in Belgium. Possibly everywhere else too. Kill my gachapons... please."

    "The bidding is expected to begin in early April"
    This thread will go into a necro bump next month when we start to see the news.
    It's like waiting for the next Animal Crossing, only so much worse. (There's so much that could go wrong!)

    So let's end this month with memes!
    Memes, all the lovely memes of Nexon over eleven years...
    Yet only one we love with a passionate spite.
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  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Just Nexon being Nexon.
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  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Liberty Media, owner of the Atlanta Braves reportedly were interested in buying, but gave up back in February.
    https://newsarticleinsiders.com/atlanta-braves-owner-tried-to-buy-nexon
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited April 17, 2019


    Your "Other News" link is a subscription paper.

    Seems the bidding war hasn't affected collaborations in the slightest.
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    This is great to see, it mean's Nexon isn't bankrupt enough to say they'll wait out the bids or take anything down.

    Oh snap, more Disney news.
    "The anticipated price for the stake to go on sale is 15 trillion won ($13.2 billion), with premiums for business management rights on top of the Nexon Japan share price, which closed up slightly at 1,681 yen ($15) Tuesday, but slid to 1,558 yen as of 1:30 p.m. Wednesday."

    "But Disney reportedly has a special place in Kim’s heart."
    -Things no business owner should ever openly admit, yet did anyways. (Bias over punctuality/turn over)

    "Nexon Japan completely owns Nexon Korea."
    *snickers* That explains how NA is able to negotiate with JP collaborations much faster these days.
    Not a bad thing, but also maybe... not an okay thing?
    It could go either way if the NA virtual market isn't the same as what JP is used to.


    “What I envy the most about Disney is that they do not force money out of kids ... (consumers) gladly pay Disney. Nexon has a long way to go. Some people hate Nexon to death,” Kim Jung-ju was quoted as saying in an anecdote in Nexon’s foundation story, “Play,” published in 2015. He was referring to the common practice of effectively requiring players to make in-game purchases.
    #NexonKnows #NexonIsWatching
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  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Your "Other News" link is a subscription paper.

    Seems the bidding war hasn't affected collaborations in the slightest.
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    This is great to see, it mean's Nexon isn't bankrupt enough to say they'll wait out the bids or take anything down.

    Oh snap, more Disney news.
    "The anticipated price for the stake to go on sale is 15 trillion won ($13.2 billion), with premiums for business management rights on top of the Nexon Japan share price, which closed up slightly at 1,681 yen ($15) Tuesday, but slid to 1,558 yen as of 1:30 p.m. Wednesday."

    "But Disney reportedly has a special place in Kim’s heart."
    -Things no business owner should ever openly admit, yet did anyways. (Bias over punctuality/turn over)

    "Nexon Japan completely owns Nexon Korea."
    *snickers* That explains how NA is able to negotiate with JP collaborations much faster these days.
    Not a bad thing, but also maybe... not an okay thing?
    It could go either way if the NA virtual market isn't the same as what JP is used to.


    “What I envy the most about Disney is that they do not force money out of kids ... (consumers) gladly pay Disney. Nexon has a long way to go. Some people hate Nexon to death,” Kim Jung-ju was quoted as saying in an anecdote in Nexon’s foundation story, “Play,” published in 2015. He was referring to the common practice of effectively requiring players to make in-game purchases.
    #NexonKnows #NexonIsWatching

    Disney finds ways to squeeze money from consumers lol. ie ESPN+ and the new Disney+
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited April 19, 2019

    So my prediction was near correct, rather than April, it's in May.
    Knowing the current facts, Disney has already bailed or will likely bail with a lowball bid, so yeah... keep your eyes on Tencent.
    (Probably due to recent anti loot box laws and no standard ESRB rating, which would equal more profit loss for Disney the moment they acquire a company like Nexon.)
    I personally would've been interested in Amazon using their wide access to different technology and company connections in order to advance Nexon content like Mabinogi.
    (Remember the graphics ten years ago? Yeah, that's either a B or C- rated game these days.)
    Amazon has Twitch, which Nexon already partners with. There could've been more potential than just Twitch Prime Subscription bonuses, but alas... we have to wait for the final bids to see what happens.
    If a company that hates/competes with Amazon wins, then you can kiss Nexon Twitch streams goodbye, and possibly welcome in more NA/Global Youtube content.
  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    We know that Kim wants a deserved high price for Nexon. He went out and made an offer to Disney to see if they would take it. With Disney's acquisitions and expansions the last couple years, they want a good buy without having to pay too much in an industry where they are getting their foot wet in. In any case, Disney wants more experience in the gaming industry as the Esports industry grows. And with the Virtual business being likely the main playing field in the next couple decades, they want to get a jump start. They'll be cautious at this opportunity, but is willing to pass it up if it will hurt their stockholders.

    Tencent is likely to be the main player despite having one of their worst quarters lately. They are looking to consolidate business and costs of what they have now and then grow later. They'll also look for a lower price.

    Then it's down to those Korean financial companies, in which one Netmarble has formed a consortium with. Netmarble really wants in, but I guess due to industry rivalry, they can't join in directly. Financial companies are able to get the capital to win the bid and then resell.
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  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    But do beware of the potential risks of Disney's potential internal feuding.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/22/disney-heiress-calls-bob-igers-total-compensation-insane.html
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  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited April 24, 2019
    But do beware of the potential risks of Disney's potential internal feuding.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/22/disney-heiress-calls-bob-igers-total-compensation-insane.html

    Let's just hope that the internal feuding at Disney doesn't lead to more American whambulances in the video game industry.
    (If they beat Tencent in the bid.)
    More of Disney's careless publicity is the last thing Nexon needs, especially with the way EA has been a hot topic of discussion.
    (Lootboxes, Politics, Celebrity Drama.)
    Marvel Comics has also had a negative press and selling point for rather obvious political stances, and since Disney also owns Marvel...
    Well, why else would we be worried about Mabinogi?
    There's so much that can go wrong, and having a bad yearly track record is never a good sign of investment.
    I would hope that the Nexon KR being mostly owned by Nexon JP would have more impact on the development than Disney, if it wins and takes over the NA branch.

    Guys, if Disney doesn't bail...
    it will cost both sides so much money once news hits the web about Disney owning and renovating all of Nexon's games.
    The servers would need upgrades for the increased traffic, and Mabinogi is still eleven years old.
    It won't run as smoothly as something as fresh as Fortnite, and it likely never will.
    Mabinogi probably can't handle new servers without the graphics upgrade.
    (Servers developed in recent years for more advanced data. Very expensive.)
    And then would come chat and forum moderation so heavy that you could swear you can feel the weight of gravity on top of you.
    It's not going to be a pleasant experience when a child friendly company decides to do a full bulldoze of the current staff.
    We won't know any of the replacement staff, and the new staff likely wouldn't care about the consumers as much as someone from KR or JP.
    Disney is pure monopolizing nightmare fuel in the current industry.
    They invest now, and improve profit through well placed effort... almost never in recent year.

    Disney's stock market should be doubling, but it's at a slow snail's crawl. And what are those large dips?
    And don't get me started on the investment cost of the Fox merger.
    How is anyone supposed to spin a profit this year by chasing after Nexon like that?
    Ooh, not that I should be slamming Disney... Tencent seems to need some stock market profit margin.
    (But on the flip side, that's just how business works. You're never really even.)

    "Though Tencent is notorious for its copying acts, it is also known for its own innovations in these copies to conform to Chinese consumers' tastes."
    Huh. Okay... so Chinese fanboys exist. Not a bad backing, I think. As long as the KR fanboys like them too, everything will be fine.

    "On 21 March 2012, Tencent launched Tencent Comic, and would later become China's largest online animation platform.[167]
    In September 2017, Tencent has announced plans to introduce Chinese online comics to every market around the world, with the first being North America. It will be working with San Francisco-based digital publisher Tapas Media, a partnership that will see English-language releases of a number of popular online Chinese titles.[168]
    "

    Okay... time out. Disney has actual competition now.

    Tencent+Tapas Media vs Disney+Marvel. We got towering, mad money titans here!
    Ain't nobody ask KR to get in the middle of this fight, especially in the video game section!
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    I will give Tencent the full benefit of the doubt, even though it's a Chinese company.
    I would like to think that they are at least aware of how managerial work across multiple platforms and media is meant to be done.
    I presume the forums would be moderated lightly by Tencent, since they'd have their own country's forums to be focused on.
    In other words, if Tencent wins, Mabinogi is more than likely back to where KR left off with NA branch. (Fanart and Feedback Threads.)

    If Tencent wins, it's still up to the global community to have a communicative platform in order for Mabinogi to be polished.
    If Disney wins...
    Nexon might lose the adult community over some unsavory political and in house argumentative jargon flashing the virtual papers.
    If Nexon loses the adult community, they lose funding for Mabinogi. It's over when Disney takes over.

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    Eh, I still have SOME hope for Disney. They did bring good stuff like Infinity and. Mickey Mouse for PS1 I guess.
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    Mabinogi x Club Penguin best crossover 2019 /s
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