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[Announcement] Server Merge & FAQ

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  • VasumatiVasumati
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    thanks rurai, tarlach and mari for beta testing the server merge hahaha

    alexinas won't come til lafter when al lthe kinks are ironed out ;)
  • GretaGreta
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    Your dictionary seemed amusing enough for me to repeat it lol.
    Pride
  • NegumikoNegumiko
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    edited May 19, 2019
    Vasumati wrote: »
    thanks rurai, tarlach and mari for beta testing the server merge hahaha

    alexinas won't come til lafter when al lthe kinks are ironed out ;)

    hopefully Alexina will be added about a month after the first server merge. really hope Alexina doesn't get ignored for a few years and they wait until we are near dead to add us.
  • CrimsCrims
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    edited May 22, 2019
    Negumiko wrote: »
    Vasumati wrote: »
    thanks rurai, tarlach and mari for beta testing the server merge hahaha

    alexinas won't come til lafter when al lthe kinks are ironed out ;)

    hopefully Alexina will be added about a month after the first server merge. really hope Alexina doesn't get ignored for a few years and they wait until we are near dead to add us.

    That's what happened with the other servers. :)

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  • DragoolfireDragoolfire
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    edited May 19, 2019
    Here is a thought to think about... Nexon dropping G23 and Server Merge at the same time. :P

    This, I believe, is a relevant (can't think of better word) idea because it will give people in Alexina something while everyone else is also getting merge.
  • CrimsCrims
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    edited May 22, 2019
    Here is a thought to think about... Nexon dropping G23 and Server Merge at the same time. :P

    Oh look they have their own building now with a sidewalk. :)
    https://goo.gl/maps/VGcit8hTGsLNQuAd8

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  • HelsaHelsa
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    Negumiko wrote: »
    hopefully Alexina will be added about a month after the first server merge

    That's what I've been hoping, though I'd be happy even if it was months. If it happens Alexina would simply be absorbed and the remaining one server would remain being called Nao. I think pretty much everyone on Alexina would be perfectly okay with that. A few things keep gnawing at me though:
    1) Why was the game made with multiple servers in the first place?
    2) Why was Alexina added?
    3) Why was each server limited to 7 channels?
    The answer to all of these might very well be, "because a server can only handle so much". If that's the case then there would be a limit beyond which a player base cannot be housed on one server. That would sukk. Of course, making it so that the entire player base COULD be hosted on one server, is, at the heart of it, a technical problem; that would fall into a cost/benefit analysis. The thing is, moving to this third part host, might go towards allowing just that; who knows.
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited May 19, 2019
    I know it's the weekend, and no one will likely be here to Vmod.
    However, as this thread is meant to be the official Server Merge discussion thread, my old Megathread is ready to be archived via "Lock."
    This should be the last comment for the thread:
    Server Merge Announcement Page
    If you would like to discuss the Server Merge, please consult this official forum thread.
    Please remember to keep discussion as civil as possible.




    Gaea wrote: »
    Play nice, Greta probably misread the quote sequence.

    Pan wrote: »
    If they merged Alexina, we wouldn't be needing tests.
    Tests are always a requirement for everything server related.
    To go without tests is to risk the deletion of the entire server database. (In the ultimate worst case scenario.)
    Valenth wrote: »
    I wish Alexina was included in this.
    Alexina is dead.
    Our population is bots. No one is active.
    I'm certain that by the time the merge is complete, Nao will be free of bot accounts.
    However, the fact remains that so far KR has completed basic quality of life updates for the KR server.
    It may take some time for them to work out more modern and advanced security measures for NA to quash bots once and for all.
    Unfortunately it's not our department as a player to ask them, so Alexina will have to await further instruction from the ban hammer.

  • NegumikoNegumiko
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    Helsa wrote: »
    Negumiko wrote: »
    hopefully Alexina will be added about a month after the first server merge

    That's what I've been hoping, though I'd be happy even if it was months. If it happens Alexina would simply be absorbed and the remaining one server would remain being called Nao. I think pretty much everyone on Alexina would be perfectly okay with that. A few things keep gnawing at me though:
    1) Why was the game made with multiple servers in the first place?
    2) Why was Alexina added?
    3) Why was each server limited to 7 channels?
    The answer to all of these might very well be, "because a server can only handle so much". If that's the case then there would be a limit beyond which a player base cannot be housed on one server. That would sukk. Of course, making it so that the entire player base COULD be hosted on one server, is, at the heart of it, a technical problem; that would fall into a cost/benefit analysis. The thing is, moving to this third part host, might go towards allowing just that; who knows.

    I would be perfectly fine with Alexina being merged as late as August or early September if needed. would be nice if they could give us confirmation that it would happen in mid to late June though. so far Alexina is just being left completely in the dark not knowing what will happen to Alexina at all. if having everything on one server is to much for one server to handle at least be direct with the community and just say it. since we would barely have a full server if everything was merged I do think it is possible, we wouldn't even quite reach the server max player population if Alexina was included and there other mmos with full servers that function just fine. for now all we can do is wait for answers, which probably won't happen until at least June 3rd or later but the wait sure is tough.
  • CrimsCrims
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    edited May 22, 2019
    Negumiko wrote: »
    Helsa wrote: »
    Negumiko wrote: »
    hopefully Alexina will be added about a month after the first server merge

    That's what I've been hoping, though I'd be happy even if it was months. If it happens Alexina would simply be absorbed and the remaining one server would remain being called Nao. I think pretty much everyone on Alexina would be perfectly okay with that. A few things keep gnawing at me though:
    1) Why was the game made with multiple servers in the first place?
    2) Why was Alexina added?
    3) Why was each server limited to 7 channels?
    The answer to all of these might very well be, "because a server can only handle so much". If that's the case then there would be a limit beyond which a player base cannot be housed on one server. That would sukk. Of course, making it so that the entire player base COULD be hosted on one server, is, at the heart of it, a technical problem; that would fall into a cost/benefit analysis. The thing is, moving to this third part host, might go towards allowing just that; who knows.

    I would be perfectly fine with Alexina being merged as late as August or early September if needed. would be nice if they could give us confirmation that it would happen in mid to late June though. so far Alexina is just being left completely in the dark not knowing what will happen to Alexina at all. if having everything on one server is to much for one server to handle at least be direct with the community and just say it. since we would barely have a full server if everything was merged I do think it is possible, we wouldn't even quite reach the server max player population if Alexina was included and there other mmos with full servers that function just fine. for now all we can do is wait for answers, which probably won't happen until at least June 3rd or later but the wait sure is tough.

    There doesn't seem to be any indication of that. And as I've said before, there needs to be a least 2 servers to choose from or we will end up like the old days where you can't reach channel 1 for the life of you. I am concerned that after those 3 servers are merged we're going to run into that ancient problem again.

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  • HelsaHelsa
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    Gaea wrote: »
    There doesn't seem to be any indication of that.

    Unfortunately, you may have a point there. I should have added as a fourth point: Why isn't this a full merge. There could be several explanations for it including, "because they can't".
    Gaea wrote: »
    And as I've said before, there needs to be a least 2 servers to choose from or we will end up like the old days where you can't reach channel 1 for the life of you. I am concerned that after those 3 servers are merged we're going to run into that ancient problem again.

    Access to channel one, in light of the Auction House, is not the issue that it used to be. If given the choice between making item flippers happy on one server to not letting an entire other server atrophy and die, I suspect the later will be chosen.
  • PanPan
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    I am already feeling myself die on this server.
  • CrimsCrims
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    edited May 22, 2019
    Players with duplicate names get divorced BEFORE the merge!

    I remember a player who convince a GM to change their ign. It borked their marriage. I think I recall that they can't even get divorced because the system doesn't recognize the correct player and their married title name comes up as a bunch of question marks. To avoid any glitches or bugs get divorced and remarry after the merge.

    Because I will tell you right now they were NEVER able to to fix that player. It perma broke them. :|

    Whether you like it or not, players with duplicate names are technically getting name changes. The name change WILL glitch any marriages. I am so glad I remembered this. Hey @Katherz you might want to let the team know about this. >_>;;;

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  • LeineiLeinei
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    Gaea wrote: »
    Players with duplicate names get divorced BEFORE the merge!

    I remember a player who convince a GM to change their ign. It borked their marriage. I think I recall that they can't even get divorced because the system doesn't recognize the correct player and their married title name comes up as a bunch of question marks. To avoid any glitches or bugs get divorced and remarry after the merge.

    Because I will tell you right now they were NEVER able to to fix that player. It perma broke them. :|

    Whether you like it or not, players with duplicate names are technically getting name changes. The name change WILL glitch any marriages. I am so glad I remembered this. Hey @Katherz you might want to let the team know about this. >_>;;;

    Ooooh this is a very good thing to keep in mind.
  • CrimsCrims
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    edited May 22, 2019
    Leinei wrote: »
    Gaea wrote: »
    Players with duplicate names get divorced BEFORE the merge!

    I remember a player who convince a GM to change their ign. It borked their marriage. I think I recall that they can't even get divorced because the system doesn't recognize the correct player and their married title name comes up as a bunch of question marks. To avoid any glitches or bugs get divorced and remarry after the merge.

    Because I will tell you right now they were NEVER able to to fix that player. It perma broke them. :|

    Whether you like it or not, players with duplicate names are technically getting name changes. The name change WILL glitch any marriages. I am so glad I remembered this. Hey @Katherz you might want to let the team know about this. >_>;;;

    Ooooh this is a very good thing to keep in mind.

    Word needs to get out fast. We only have 2 weeks left.

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  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Gaea wrote: »
    Leinei wrote: »
    Gaea wrote: »
    Players with duplicate names get divorced BEFORE the merge!

    I remember a player who convince a GM to change their ign. It borked their marriage. I think I recall that they can't even get divorced because the system doesn't recognize the correct player and their married title name comes up as a bunch of question marks. To avoid any glitches or bugs get divorced and remarry after the merge.

    Because I will tell you right now they were NEVER able to to fix that player. It perma broke them. :|

    Whether you like it or not, players with duplicate names are technically getting name changes. The name change WILL glitch any marriages. I am so glad I remembered this. Hey @Katherz you might want to let the team know about this. >_>;;;

    Ooooh this is a very good thing to keep in mind.

    Word needs to get out fast. We only have 2 weeks left.

    Time flies.
  • LadameLadame
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    Another thing to consider, Meet-Cute bracelets. I wonder if the merge will mess those up as well?
  • CrimsCrims
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    edited May 22, 2019
    Ladame wrote: »
    Another thing to consider, Meet-Cute bracelets. I wonder if the merge will mess those up as well?

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  • SkaidrojumiSkaidrojumi
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    Ladame wrote: »
    Another thing to consider, Meet-Cute bracelets. I wonder if the merge will mess those up as well?

    It's a loss, but I'm willing to make the sacrifice. Que the "Country Roads" song (preferably from Whispers of the Heart version).
    TsukoyomiZero2021Poyopoyo
  • PoyopoyoPoyopoyo
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    Ladame wrote: »
    Another thing to consider, Meet-Cute bracelets. I wonder if the merge will mess those up as well?

    It's a loss, but I'm willing to make the sacrifice. Que the "Country Roads" song (preferably from Whispers of the Heart version).

    well put xD