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Pottery Making Skill

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As the Bard Camp doesn't have much use outside of current lore...
What better way of employing NPCs who live the life of a gypsy, than to have them offer lessons in a Pottery Making Skill?
Pottery making sounds like a silly skill at first, but what kind of uses could it have?
Maybe players could finish certain types of pottery to gain favor with NPCs, much like Likability Potions.
Or, maybe you could store certain dishes in certain pottery, selling them to Trade Assistant imps for Ducats.
Maybe this could be another skill with a mini game, much like Wine Making?
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  • DanievictriaDanievictria
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    Oh, there are so many ways this could be useful! We could be able to make ceramic banks to hold our gold, we could make ceramic weapons and protective gear, we could make ceramic instruments (Jug Band, anyone...?), we could make ceramic decorations for our homesteads...Ceramics are surprisingly versatile for something that's basically just dirt that's baked at several thousand degrees...
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  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Add glassblowing as well.
    Make clay, ceramic or glass bottles instead of buying them for picking them from drops or fishing.
    These should also be used to hold things, like potions the before mentioned wine and other things that can be stored.
    And of course, to make clay and ceramic sculptures, tableware and other items.
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  • HelsaHelsa
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    Clay Flute.
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  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Helsa wrote: »
    Clay Flute.

    Excellent Smithers.
    Darkpixie99
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited August 16, 2019
    Add glassblowing as well.
    Make clay, ceramic or glass bottles instead of buying them for picking them from drops or fishing.
    These should also be used to hold things, like potions the before mentioned wine and other things that can be stored.
    And of course, to make clay and ceramic sculptures, tableware and other items.

    I didn't know this when searching for a gif, but apparently Pokemon has showed glass blowing before.
    (Maybe I forgot or something, but hey. It exists in anime.)
    giphy.gif
    Maybe Glass Blowing could be a higher rank of Pottery Making, and require a Furnace and Metal Rod along with the previous new Pottery Wheel tool item. (Maybe we could use Cuilin Stones to craft into clay or other materials.)
    There's also Chinese Pottery, as to which Nexon China would adore to educate the masses.
    Japanese pottery and porcelain, as described by Wikipedia.
    Korean pottery and porcelain, as described by Wikipedia
    KensamaofmariDanievictria
  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Add glassblowing as well.
    Make clay, ceramic or glass bottles instead of buying them for picking them from drops or fishing.
    These should also be used to hold things, like potions the before mentioned wine and other things that can be stored.
    And of course, to make clay and ceramic sculptures, tableware and other items.

    I didn't know this when searching for a gif, but apparently Pokemon has showed glass blowing before.
    (Maybe I forgot or something, but hey. It exists in anime.)
    giphy.gif
    Maybe Glass Blowing could be a higher rank of Pottery Making, and require a Furnace and Metal Rod along with the previous new Pottery Wheel tool item. (Maybe we could use Cuilin Stones to craft into clay or other materials.)
    There's also Chinese Pottery, as to which Nexon China would adore to educate the masses.

    Porcelains would he a higher level as well
    Danievictria
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited August 16, 2019
    Porcelains would he a higher level as well

    Yeah, makes sense, since you're working with multiple materials.
    Perhaps if it included the 1-5 stars system, quality might also be affected based on how well or poorly you clear the mini games.
    For the medieval part of Mabinogi: The Medieval Pottery Research Group

    Danievictria
  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Porcelains would he a higher level as well

    Yeah, makes sense, since you're working with multiple materials.
    Perhaps if it included the 1-5 stars system, quality might also be affected based on how well or poorly you clear the mini games.
    For the medieval part of Mabinogi: The Medieval Pottery Research Group

    Would amphorae be high or low level?
    Also, we'll need to designate areas for clay pits.
    Danievictria
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited August 16, 2019
    Would amphorae be high or low level?
    Also, we'll need to designate areas for clay pits.

    Dugald Aisle Logging Camp feels oddly correct, and atmospherically airy, at least in the cleared stump areas.
    Otherwise: Belvast, Connous, or Physis would have to have dedicated, perhaps concrete built column style of open air forge.
    At least that's how I imagine the fantasy life part playing into it.
    Amphora are a multiple step process, yet seem rather simple in comparison, so maybe a lower rank around C or B?
    Decoration (Pre-Established Patterns/Stamps) and Treatment (Durability Increase/Repair) could be Rank A.
    Perhaps Amphora can't be completed until you reach Rank A?
    Danievictria
  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Would amphorae be high or low level?
    Also, we'll need to designate areas for clay pits.

    Dugald Aisle Logging Camp feels oddly correct, and atmospherically airy, at least in the cleared stump areas.
    Otherwise: Belvast, Connous, or Physis would have to have dedicated, perhaps concrete built column style of open air forge.
    At least that's how I imagine the fantasy life part playing into it.
    Amphora are a multiple step process, yet seem rather simple in comparison, so maybe a lower rank around C or B?
    Decoration (Pre-Established Patterns/Stamps) and Treatment (Durability Increase/Repair) could be Rank A.
    Perhaps Amphora can't be completed until you reach Rank A?

    But wet clay would need to have a water source and logging camp doesn't appear to have one.
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited August 16, 2019
    But wet clay would need to have a water source and logging camp doesn't appear to have one.

    A valid point indeed. We already have general stores with bottles, and places to gather water, including Homestead Wells.
    I've been thinking, and what if Rank 1 of Pottery Making enabled Flower Arrangement?
    Essentially, you'd gather different types of flowers in Emain Ma- wait.
    What about Emain Macha as another hub for the Bard Camp NPCs to travel to and from?
    It's a town surrounded by water, travelers come and go, smugglers pass by, it's practically an excellent place for anyone to set up shop next to the Puppetry Workshop.
  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    But wet clay would need to have a water source and logging camp doesn't appear to have one.

    A valid point indeed. We already have general stores with bottles, and places to gather water, including Homestead Wells.
    I've been thinking, and what if Rank 1 of Pottery Making enabled Flower Arrangement?
    Essentially, you'd gather different types of flowers in Emain Ma- wait.
    What about Emain Macha as another hub for the Bard Camp NPCs to travel to and from?
    It's a town surrounded by water, travelers come and go, smugglers pass by, it's practically an excellent place for anyone to set up shop next to the Puppetry Workshop.

    I'm thinking Abb Neagh, Emain, Tara, Corrib, Oasis, Cor, Hot Springs, Maiz would serve as potential spots to gather clay.
    Darkpixie99
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    I'm thinking Abb Neagh, Emain, Tara, Corrib, Oasis, Cor, Hot Springs, Maiz would serve as potential spots to gather clay.

    Makes sense, but Nexon will have to see what type of tools were historically used for clay gathering, and which best fit Mabinogi.
    The area Soil color could also affect the Clay color and difficulty to the crafting mini game.
    For ceramics and porcelain, you may also need to dabble in the Alchemy skills if you want Dust or Minerals such as Ash or Kaolin.
    Given how Kaolin has many other uses, it's safe to assume that Pottery Making materials could serve as crafting materials of many future additional recipe uses as well.

  • DanievictriaDanievictria
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    Add glassblowing as well.
    Make clay, ceramic or glass bottles instead of buying them for picking them from drops or fishing.
    These should also be used to hold things, like potions the before mentioned wine and other things that can be stored.
    And of course, to make clay and ceramic sculptures, tableware and other items.

    I didn't know this when searching for a gif, but apparently Pokemon has showed glass blowing before.
    (Maybe I forgot or something, but hey. It exists in anime.)
    giphy.gif
    Maybe Glass Blowing could be a higher rank of Pottery Making, and require a Furnace and Metal Rod along with the previous new Pottery Wheel tool item. (Maybe we could use Cuilin Stones to craft into clay or other materials.)
    There's also Chinese Pottery, as to which Nexon China would adore to educate the masses.
    Japanese pottery and porcelain, as described by Wikipedia.
    Korean pottery and porcelain, as described by Wikipedia

    Don't forget Greek pottery! There are actually potters still using the old techniques today, too.
    Darkpixie99
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited August 16, 2019
    Don't forget Greek pottery! There are actually potters still using the old techniques today, too.

    Ancient Greek Pottery
    I think we already have Paint items, so that's one less wave of crafting materials Nexon has to make.
    Adding Vinegar as a Cooking material in with any Paint in the Handicraft Skill could possibly make it into a special type of material called Pottery Finish. (And would reflect the same Basic or Mixed Paint color, unless randomization is easier to code.)
    Kilns, I would presume to be a large object, and would take up more room in your homestead than a Well. (4x4?)
    Cups could be Rank D unlock, while Plates could be a Rank F Pottery Making skill unlock.
    Pottery Finish would be used in the final stages of the mini game to color the pottery, much like the Dye Pallet locations.
    (Rank 1 for unlock Pottery Finish? Or Rank C?)

    Medieval pottery kilns:
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXp-ITrnl64ggIAtBxV9xGrAXe3E2MP0cLtNIvxwzhr23MA6WX
    CGI-reconstruction-of-kiln.jpg
    mainimage2.jpg
    bickleykiln2.jpg

    The third one looks like something Connous would use.
    Medieval kilns as described by Bickley Project

    A cool historical thing that could contribute to Mabinogi gods/goddesses worship lore: Clay Body Parts
    These could even be used for earning favor with the Church of Lymilark, Knights of the Round Table, or Alban Knights.
    Danievictria
  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    I'm thinking Abb Neagh, Emain, Tara, Corrib, Oasis, Cor, Hot Springs, Maiz would serve as potential spots to gather clay.

    Makes sense, but Nexon will have to see what type of tools were historically used for clay gathering, and which best fit Mabinogi.
    The area Soil color could also affect the Clay color and difficulty to the crafting mini game.
    For ceramics and porcelain, you may also need to dabble in the Alchemy skills if you want Dust or Minerals such as Ash or Kaolin.
    Given how Kaolin has many other uses, it's safe to assume that Pottery Making materials could serve as crafting materials of many future additional recipe uses as well.

    Also, clay type and color should be determined by the location. For example, if there's a clay pit in Gairech Hills near Bangor, you would get a red clay. Maybe a blueish clay in Zardine.
    Darkpixie99
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    According to Tripadvisor.com Tokyo Glass Art Institute has experience classes.
    Sounds like something fun for the Nexon JP or KR studio to partake in for research's sake.
  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    According to Tripadvisor.com Tokyo Glass Art Institute has experience classes.
    Sounds like something fun for the Nexon JP or KR studio to partake in for research's sake.

    Sometimes, you just need to watch some documentaries to get the simple knowledge.
    Darkpixie99
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    According to Tripadvisor.com Tokyo Glass Art Institute has experience classes.
    Sounds like something fun for the Nexon JP or KR studio to partake in for research's sake.

    Sometimes, you just need to watch some documentaries to get the simple knowledge.

    But at least it's still something to be done on a vacation, right?
  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    According to Tripadvisor.com Tokyo Glass Art Institute has experience classes.
    Sounds like something fun for the Nexon JP or KR studio to partake in for research's sake.

    Sometimes, you just need to watch some documentaries to get the simple knowledge.

    But at least it's still something to be done on a vacation, right?

    Or weekends, or even weeknights.
    Darkpixie99