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So.. When are the reforge bot shops going to die?

FroglordFroglord
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edited April 6, 2017 in General Chat
These bots seem to have some infinite amount of Nx available to them. They crowd dunbarton, and belvast market areas and place fine or credne reforging shops everywhere, then proceed to spam forever in high populated areas conducting RWT to shady websites.

There are even bots selling the 9th aniversary pack items as well in some cases.

I though you guys at nexon were against this, but it's running rampant on Alexina right now.

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  • KrukiaKrukia
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    Tarlach too. I see people on alts or using bots to sell reforges and 9th anniversary boxes like crazy. What gives?
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  • BlissfulkillBlissfulkill
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    This should be concerning if you guys do not already know, if it is true. NX commodities are something of a special area, and having them duplicated, or god forbid the duplication of NX, is concerning.

    Of course, it may not be true.
  • FroglordFroglord
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    edited April 6, 2017
    I guess you gotta cheat to make the doe for those pihne armors and divine weapons.

    Because god forbid Devcat/nexon tracks people's spending habbits in game anymore.
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  • BlissfulkillBlissfulkill
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    Froglord wrote: »
    I guess you gotta cheat to make the doe for those pihne armors and divine weapons.

    I do not mean to express doubt without reason Froglord, I just wonder how come Nexon put their foot down concerning something that affects them heavily at this point.
  • BlissfulkillBlissfulkill
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    And yeah...there are a lot of aspiring people with reforge shops open.
  • FroglordFroglord
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    edited April 6, 2017
    The bar has been lowered, and it's pretty obvious.

    They never stood for those giant bots farming raccoon fomor scrolls 5 years ago, and they're flatout doing nothing to the bots that are selling hundreds of fine reforge kits for 700k a pop.
  • GretaGreta
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    edited April 6, 2017
    Yeah i noticed many freshly made characters in Belvast selling such things and i was wondering "What's going on...?". At first, i thought it's probably one of those bots who spam around in chat, but no, they just calmly stand there for days, doing nothing and some of them had opened shops nearby with all these NX items in there. I even saw some shops FULL of various Direct Dyes that you only were able to get 1 of each kind on Hot Time Event... Yup, Mabinogi became as Mulenogi, Afkinogi, Altinogi and Someshadythingshappeninogi.
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  • KrukiaKrukia
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    edited April 6, 2017
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    What is this? Amazing reforges? Notorious magic powder? on an alt? Doesn't make much sense to me..
    Greta
  • GretaGreta
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    edited April 6, 2017
    Krukia wrote: »
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    What is this? Amazing reforges? Notorious magic powder? on an alt? Doesn't make much sense to me..

    I get feeling it's one of these kind of players who use alts to buy NX items and later sell it for gold or something along those lines. Some of my friends are using alts to sell stuff so they can change channels or log off in their main account, but i never asked about what they sell. Heck, i even have one friend who is around 1.4k total level and somehow has a pair of 50m worth CRKS. I would think it's his alt or he made new account, but no, he legit didn't even know some basic things, like where does White Dragon spawn. If you have such thing as fully upgraded, stepped and reforged CKRS i'm pretty sure you should already know where or when White/Black dragon appear... I'm pretty sure that guy bought them with real money or even something more shady was done there.
  • KokoroKokoro
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    They'll stop selling when people stop buying from them. I see then restocking a lot which means they must have plenty of customers.
  • BlissfulkillBlissfulkill
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    Kokoro wrote: »
    They'll stop selling when people stop buying from them. I see then restocking a lot which means they must have plenty of customers.

    That will never happen. People are too unscrupulous. We will likely have to wait for Nexon to intervene.
    GretaBuffalos
  • LiyetaLiyeta
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    Froglord wrote: »
    The bar has been lowered, and it's pretty obvious.

    They never stood for those giant bots farming raccoon fomor scrolls 5 years ago, and they're flatout doing nothing to the bots that are selling hundreds of fine reforge kits for 700k a pop.

    Nah its 380k to 400k ea. I kind of like those guys. They sell reforge for a fair price XD
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  • asdfasdfasdfasdfadsfasdfasdfasdfasdfadsf
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    I think the likely issue is that people use alts to increase their spending cap. You can only spend X amount per month with certain payments. Having alt accounts allows said person to spend as much as they want.

    This is all speculation of course. We all know Mabinogi has been home to hackers/exploiters/botters since the beginning with little reprieve.
    GretaLiyeta
  • XiokunXiokun
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    Liyeta wrote: »
    Froglord wrote: »
    The bar has been lowered, and it's pretty obvious.

    They never stood for those giant bots farming raccoon fomor scrolls 5 years ago, and they're flatout doing nothing to the bots that are selling hundreds of fine reforge kits for 700k a pop.

    Nah its 380k to 400k ea. I kind of like those guys. They sell reforge for a fair price XD

    Same here. I like cheap reforges. Still, it IS concerning to see alts suddenly have all these items.
  • CrimsCrims
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    edited April 7, 2017
    I mean they could just simply be legit items people bought and sold on alts via a laptop or some other device apart from their main computer so they don't have to get harassed on their main character. You can't duplicate Nx, Nexon would notice something is up. But as long as there is no credit card fraud - they are good to go. It's their money.
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  • HCLWHCLW
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    all i am reading is a bunch of paranoia
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  • BuffalosBuffalos
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    Gaea wrote: »
    I mean they could just simply be legit items people bought and sold on alts via a laptop or some other device apart from their main computer so they don't have to get harassed on their main character. You can't duplicate Nx, Nexon would notice something is up. But as long as there is no credit card fraud - they are good to go. It's their money.

    I thought this was the case when I saw two of them set up right next to each other when this first started happening. I've come to stop believing that given that there are at least ten of these shops on each of the servers at any given time now.
    You can't duplicate NX without alarms being raised, and large scale item duplication would have been caught by now. I'm starting to think this is how those gold websites get their gold to sell: buy NX and sell things under market value and mail gold off to a horde somewhere for resale.
  • CrimsCrims
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    Buffalos wrote: »
    Gaea wrote: »
    I mean they could just simply be legit items people bought and sold on alts via a laptop or some other device apart from their main computer so they don't have to get harassed on their main character. You can't duplicate Nx, Nexon would notice something is up. But as long as there is no credit card fraud - they are good to go. It's their money.

    I thought this was the case when I saw two of them set up right next to each other when this first started happening. I've come to stop believing that given that there are at least ten of these shops on each of the servers at any given time now.
    You can't duplicate NX without alarms being raised, and large scale item duplication would have been caught by now. I'm starting to think this is how those gold websites get their gold to sell: buy NX and sell things under market value and mail gold off to a horde somewhere for resale.

    What is the point of that though? You buy Nx, buy Nx items, sell those items for gold, and then sell the gold for cash...? I would imagine that they wouldn't be making that much profit. There is a standard gold to cash market rate (unfortunately). That doesn't make any sense.

    What if...and this might be a bit out there...but...what if it's someone with a bunch of windows tablets and a awesome internet connection? Could be someone just doing it for the gold.

    -shrugs-
  • FayeKaibaFayeKaiba
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    I'll keep buying from them, I would rather buy decently priced, then try to buy from people who sell nearly 800k for fine reforges and 2 mil for a credne.
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  • TheDumbOneTheDumbOne
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    i saw some selling for 300k each. who ever did that is my bot senpai - lol