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On the subject of being warned
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I'm sorry it took a bit before it was placed back into the General section. Normally it's done in a timely manner, but sometimes there can be a delay when we have to wait for advice, help, approval, etc before any changes/action can be made.
Thank you for your concern. Feedback is good. In regards to Zephy's thread, it was placed into a hidden section for review/cleanup, and then a post was made to it by me after it was moved back.
In regards to moderation notices in general, just because you don't see one, doesn't always mean that it wasn't done.
Sometimes a comment isn't made publicly but rather a PM could be sent to the forumer when something gets moderated. This allows for privacy to the person who's being moderated instead of "calling them out" openly on the forum. At times, a notice can be made within a thread or a comment can be stated within the moderated post. Then there are times when it's obvious as to why something has been moderated.
Additionally, we lost a couple VFMs last year and only recently got some new ones. There had also been some moderation testing/changes going on this past year. Some worked, some didn't.
If anyone ever has any questions, concerns, or feedback involving moderation or even general forum questions, they're welcome and encouraged to contact a moderator here on the forum. We can also be reached on Discord in the Unofficial Mabinogi Discord server.
Multiple people here think a specific vfm is being biased and striking certain people unfairly. And to be clear, I don't mind being striked if I say something out of bounds. What I mind is saying something bad about a certain vfm and them striking me 20 minutes later on another thread that very obviously wasn't out of bounds. How am I supposed to trust that? These forums have a history of that exact bias and power trip before, so we're not being unreasonable in being wary of it now either.
At the end of the day, people just want more understanding of what is going on. You mentioned moderation testing and changes that have been taking place, and as a community we definitely feel it. Except we don't know what's actually changing, so we don't know how to respond appropriately. It then festers paranoia that's really unneeded.
We welcome constructive criticism, and obviously not everyone is going to like us(it would be foolish to think anyone at all would). We’re not perfect, and there are always opportunities to learn and grow.
Not sure what you’re referring to with a “solution within minutes”, but some situations are complex, and need time to be understood(with context) and weighed. And of course, that’s on top of other duties we may have, whether relating to here or in our personal lives.
Something not disappearing because you don’t like it, or disappearing despite you liking it, isn’t indicative of bias, and that’s something important to keep in mind.
Well, warnings and their reasons are logged, and may not happen immediately after the offense(s) occur, but each and every one is subject to a review by the staff and moderation team.
What you’re asking for, in my opinion, is a bit excessive for something that may not even be seen by anyone, nor understood for what could be a matter of minutes. Having to announce every single action taken, in great detail no less, would clutter up the forums. We will provide as much information as we can, however.
A- There's plenty of toxic, reported things on these forums that aren't touched so the forums should be lax on the rules.
B- You're striking things that aren't that bad, so when the more toxic stuff happens it should be smited in less than an hour.
You also can't accuse me of mistaking bias for personal feelings if I'm not the only one complaining and pointing out this same issue. The fact you implied that is honestly insulting, considering that the reason I left the original forums was because an ex-mod was bullying someone in the Art Section. I'm not a super nice person, but I'd like to believe that no matter if I'm right or wrong I will call myself out on being a _____ if I see I came to the wrong conclusion.
It was my fault that your thread was temporarily removed, it seems. I posted an image that included profanity that was uncensored, and was thusly warned for my transgression. I apologize.
I even got upgraded past mild for my raucous behavior...I am Wild now!
lmao