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HackerAxe's (Xiokun) Freebies

XiokunXiokun
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edited August 7, 2018 in Fan Creations
HackerAxe (Xiokun - Server Mari) Freebies!
Hey everyone! About one or two years ago, I came to the old Mabinogi forums and did some freebies for people. It inspired me to continue drawing digitally, and led to faster improvements over time. Then, after joining the Unofficial Offical Mabinogi Discord server, drawing, and posting my art there, I felt like I improved even faster. Now, I wanted to come back to the forums and do some freebies again to practice for a time I'll open commissions seriously.

If you want a freebie, post references of your character, be it Mabinogi related or not. I only prefer Mabinogi related for this because their outfits tend to be more complex, and lead to better practice for drawing detailed clothes. I won't be doing everyone, and I'll be trying to pick one of each kind of type or design, be it a young child character, average sized teen character, or an adult character, be it with complex or simple clothing, or varying weights. Lastly, it would help a lot if you told me what you would pay for my art if this was a commission. It will help me determine what the price should be based on how I feel and how others here feel. Thanks for the help!

PS: Like I said, I'm Xiokun from server Mari, but my artist name is HackerAxe on DeviantArt(https://www.deviantart.com/hackeraxe), Discord(HackerAxe#7600), and Picarto(https://picarto.tv/HackerAxe).

Here are a few examples of my work.

Headshot - Lineart
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Nude Full Body - Lineart
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Clothed Full Body - Lineart and Basic Coloring
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Action Scene with Background - Detailed Lineart (Coloring in Progress. Full screen to see all of the details!)
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Rough Painting - Somewhat Refined Coloring
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Very Rough Painting - Sketchy Coloring
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Clean(er) Painting (I rarely like to do it very clean.)
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  1. What do you think of my art?28 votes
    1. It's good!
       46% (13 votes)
    2. It's good, but you can get better!
       46% (13 votes)
    3. It needs work to me. Keep at it!
       0% (0 votes)
    4. Oh geez, aren't you the one who draws them dudes in dresses!?
       7% (2 votes)

Comments

  • MarielxMarielx
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    edited August 7, 2018
    First of all, welcome back and good luck on your freebie rush.

    Second, i only have a female character, but if you still find it interesting, heres my reference: https://i.imgur.com/tQmbdf4.png
    If you prefer a simplier/more complex outfit, heres the album with all the outfits i own: https://imgur.com/a/wJHCi

    Hope i dont end up being rude, but since you asked ill list what "I" would pay for your examples at the end of your post:
    1st: 500k
    2nd: (would never ask for a nude drawing, but the quality would be 1m)
    3rd: 2m
    4th: 4m (action poses are cool, could be worth more)
    5th, 6th and 7th: 3m

    Once again, good luck.

    Edit: I voted for good but could be better because your drawings are all great but you go way too simple on the feet/legs, im nowhere near an artists so its just my humble opinion.
    Xiokun
  • MizukoMizuko
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    edited August 13, 2018
    Here is my OC if you are interested.

    Reference: https://imgur.com/MjrINaN

    Other Info: Age 9, No Blush, and Flat Chest

    Optional Pose and Background:
    https://imgur.com/kbkWooH

    I'm not good at pricing, but I will give it a try.
    1st Image: 200k
    2nd Image: 350k
    3rd Image: 500k Line Art, 1 Mil Basic Coloring
    4th Image+: 2 Mil or more depending on complexity
  • MissFortuneMissFortune
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    edited August 8, 2018
    I have an androgynous female if you're interested in her. She is pretty petite, but not a child or anything.

    Not sure about prices. Looking through your gallery, at the TripDering one, I'd easily pay 5m for something of that style.

    -Edit-
    I just realized I'm blind and didn't see the spoiler of your images there.......
  • MikitisueMikitisue
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    Hello hello :D I have seen your art in the discord chat! Its quite amazing! It would be an honor if you decide to draw mabi girl
    Complex: https://ibb.co/mfzA6K Age: maybe 17ish? Personality: serious, cold, and proud If you prefer a childish look
    https://ibb.co/jxLf9H
    https://ibb.co/c0tNOc
    Age: 8 or 9
    Personality: playful, carefree and happy go lucky
    For the price, i would do 500k for the headshot, 1-1.5 for the second image, 2.5-3 for the basic coloring, and 3-6 mil for the rest.
    Thank you for considering my mabi girl :D
  • TreepTreep
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    HAI BEAUTIFUL GIANT I SEE IN BELFAST A LOT!

    I will try with prices ;;

    For 1st picture : 1m Line ,1.5m+ if colored :D
    2nd For full nude bodies would think 2m -5m+ depending on what people wanted like as a reference sheet
    3rd Clothed full body maybe 3m-5m+ :D Since adding details takes time and would pay for best quality ♥
    4th 5m+ Depending on the action scene :D
    For paintings maybe like 4m+ The colors are so neat and pretty
    Thank you for drawing my character ;_; https://i.imgur.com/IWg5VXY.png
  • AtaraxizAtaraxiz
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    edited August 7, 2018
    Ataraxiz
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    Hi, bestie! Your art is fantabulous and I think its worth more than anything anyone could ever offer you :3 But that's just my opinion because I loves chu. Having known you and having watched you do one of your best pieces for several hours, I know how much time and dedication you put into your work. I'm so very proud to be your friend and Guild Leader :3!!!!

    For your work, I'd pay 1.5m for lineart and 2m for base colors, 2-4m depending on the complexity and type of coloring the nudes would include, 2-4m+ on clothed, 5m+ on poses, and paintings 3-5m+ depending on the amount of effort it takes to complete (since I know some of your work can take more than 7-8 hours and sometimes days if really complex and detailed).

    I personally can't wait until you start comissioning :3 You're going to get so much support from me that the server will practically hear your squeals! So be prepared >:D!!!!

    Love, Ata, Yo Bestie ♥♥♥♥♥
  • SkylivySkylivy
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    Sorry. I happened to use an age 9 pot so I'm extremely short.. here's a decently complex outfit/armour https://puu.sh/BayrL/00d272ab38.png

    I'm usually age 10~12 in game though, hopefully simulator links are allowed here's the link to the KR Mabi simulator version of my character https://mabi.sigkill.kr/charsimulator/?lang=en&saved_char=AOE6IdaOl-Lb
    (Be sure to set shader to "7" to see true colors, like so https://puu.sh/BayGi/04ea47481d.png)

    As for prices for your art, I'd say
    1st: 500k ~ 1m
    2nd: 2m+
    3rd: 3m+
    4th: 5m
    5th ~ 7th: 7~10m+ since the painting is AMAZING
  • ImaizumiImaizumi
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    1st: 500-750k
    2nd: 2m
    3rd: 3-4m
    4th: 7m+
    5th: 5-6m

    I don't think I would personally pay for 6 and 7 but that's my personal preference for art, so I'll pass on what I think of pricing them since they're not aimed at me anyway.

    Oh and here's a ref if she interests you: https://imgur.com/a/RSPPr8h

    Thanks for the opportunity and hope your freebies/shop/art go well! Your art's always a pleasure to look at when I do see it on the Discord server :D
  • PankoodaPankooda
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    Welcome back! Here's my characters stuff if your interested and you can choose which outfit you would be comfortable with.

    https://m.imgur.com/a/TPks3

    Now for the pricing stuff I'm curious are you only doing gold commissions or will you also do PayPal commissions as well?

    Okay here's what I feel on prices based on those pictures

    1st: 500k to 750k

    2nd: 1.5m if nothing but maybe 2m for those with wings and or tails

    3rd: 3m to 4m depends on complexity

    4th: 5m+ for just line art w/background but could vary depending again on complexity of character design and the pose and 7m+ if the fully colored

    The paintings that's kinda hard for me to say a price on but I will say they are really amazing (I really really really like the first one) just kinda wondering how difficult those ones are to make. But I guess I'll sit at 5m+ on those ones.
  • GakkuriaquaGakkuriaqua
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    edited August 8, 2018
    hello :> i still love the commissions i received from you a while back. ♥ I definitely seen a lot of improvements since then!

    One thing to think about is how much you spend time on the piece. Not a lot of people consider this for pricing.
    If you take for ex: 4+ hours then you shouldn't offer it at 5m.
    Reason is because atm rates are roughly 7/8m = $10--- 5m is about $7.

    If you worked on a piece for 4hours then you worked for $1.75 per hour which is way below minim wage level. Which imho is not acceptable. In the end its up to you if you're comfortable at accepting the price for such pieces.

    Granted a lot of people would think 10m+ is expensive however art commissions is to be considered a luxury so you shouldn't undercut your self for the time and effort you put into your work.

    The prices for art commissions is much higher outside of mabi forums in terms of USD.

    I know it would be hard to get commissions if the prices are too high in gold, so please do find a balance in the price and type of style that you're comfortable with if you're mainly wanting gold!

    MissFortuneImaizumiSkylivy
  • Newleaf81Newleaf81
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    Hey man, first, just gotta say I love your art, like toooooooo much. I'm bad at prices, but this'll just be my opinions.
    1 pic: 1.5m
    2 pic: 2.5-3m
    3 pic: 4m
    4 pic: 5m
    And the paintings I would say 4m+- depending on how rough/clean the person wants it as.

    and here is my character in some different outfits, choose whatever outfit you want.
    https://i.imgur.com/FUuu0EF.png
    https://i.imgur.com/JCmkTNx.png
    https://i.imgur.com/P7shZiA.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/6JJUweB.png

    My leaf boi has a lot of other outfits as well, but I'd thought I wouldn't bombard you with like 9 links lel
    Leaf very smug and enjoys trolling people, quite a narcissistic man ((that first pic)), and has a harem involving both girls and boys.
  • Newleaf81Newleaf81
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    Hey man, first, just gotta say I love your art, like toooooooo much. I'm bad at prices, but this'll just be my opinions.
    1 pic: 1.5m
    2 pic: 2.5-3m
    3 pic: 4m
    4 pic: 5m
    And the paintings I would say 4m+- depending on how rough/clean the person wants it as.

    and here is my character in some different outfits, choose whatever outfit you want.
    https://i.imgur.com/FUuu0EF.png
    https://i.imgur.com/JCmkTNx.png
    https://i.imgur.com/P7shZiA.jpg
    https://i.imgur.com/6JJUweB.png

    My leaf boi has a lot of other outfits as well, but I'd thought I wouldn't bombard you with like 9 links lel
    Leaf very smug and enjoys trolling people, quite a narcissistic man ((that first pic))
  • XiokunXiokun
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    hello :> i still love the commissions i received from you a while back. ♥ I definitely seen a lot of improvements since then!

    One thing to think about is how much you spend time on the piece. Not a lot of people consider this for pricing.
    If you take for ex: 4+ hours then you shouldn't offer it at 5m.
    Reason is because atm rates are roughly 7/8m = $10--- 5m is about $7.

    If you worked on a piece for 4hours then you worked for $1.75 per hour which is way below minim wage level. Which imho is not acceptable. In the end its up to you if you're comfortable at accepting the price for such pieces.

    Granted a lot of people would think 10m+ is expensive however art commissions is to be considered a luxury so you shouldn't undercut your self for the time and effort you put into your work.

    The prices for art commissions is much higher outside of mabi forums in terms of USD.

    I know it would be hard to get commissions if the prices are too high in gold, so please do find a balance in the price and type of style that you're comfortable with if you're mainly wanting gold!

    In all honesty, since I'm not really on Mabinogi much anymore, I'd really want paypal, or steam giftcards so I can spend it on other games OR on Mabinogi if I want to. In the picture with the axes, I took several days, maybe two or three, and drawing for over four hours, almost six hours a day. When it's something detailed or dedicated I'm working on, a lot of my drawings take six hours straight because I strive to get the anatomy, facial expression, and just overall feel right the best I can. I'm not perfect at those things, but every drawing I try to do better than my last! :3

    I have a bad feeling the kind of gold amount I would want is way too expensive for the majority of these forums, though. I still want to do commissions, but maybe I'll just stick to people I know on discord who want them for now until I can draw faster, simpler things that won't take me long so I can charge less but still not feel undercut. That way, people can get cheaper, cool looking art while I can still feel good about what I earned. :>
    Imaizumi
  • SapphiraMuseSapphiraMuse
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    *Squeak* Xio-senpaaaiiii o/
    I really don't have a clue for prices so um...I'm just gonna say what others have been saying so far. I'm such a helpful fox *cry*
  • XiokunXiokun
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    Marielx wrote: »
    First of all, welcome back and good luck on your freebie rush.

    Second, i only have a female character, but if you still find it interesting, heres my reference: https://i.imgur.com/tQmbdf4.png
    If you prefer a simplier/more complex outfit, heres the album with all the outfits i own: https://imgur.com/a/wJHCi

    Hope i dont end up being rude, but since you asked ill list what "I" would pay for your examples at the end of your post:
    1st: 500k
    2nd: (would never ask for a nude drawing, but the quality would be 1m)
    3rd: 2m
    4th: 4m (action poses are cool, could be worth more)
    5th, 6th and 7th: 3m

    Once again, good luck.

    Edit: I voted for good but could be better because your drawings are all great but you go way too simple on the feet/legs, im nowhere near an artists so its just my humble opinion.

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    Here's your freebie, Mariel.

    I want to add that, for everyone else, as I did say earlier, I can't do everyone. Though, I also wanted to say that my freebies might be spaced out if there's others here I wanted to do. I won't be doing them all at once!
    Imaizumi
  • MarielxMarielx
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    Heh, manly edition!
    You basically made her a giant.

    Thank you.

    Also i see you fixed the side hair, thanks for that as well, and once again, good luck on the rest of your freebies.
  • SylviaWolfeSylviaWolfe
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    If you feel like drawing my pretty-boy I'd be stoked!
    https://imgur.com/Ai0yZCL

    As for your art prices, for a bust colored I'd say 3-5m and a full-body colored I'd throw 8-10m. You can obviously charge more/less as your time value is your own decision!!
  • PhirecryPhirecry
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    Thank you for the opportunity =^^=
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  • KrissmasKrissmas
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    Such amazing artwork!! ♥♥
    SylviaWolfe
  • ElfyElfy
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    edited August 18, 2018
    I love your artwork so much!! ; u ; ♥ I hope my OC or mabi character interests you.
    If you're interested in anymore info, or need more refs, you have me on discord! (Elfy).
    If this was a commission, I'd be willing to pay 10-20mil, depending if it was fullbody colored.
    Honestly though, your artwork is too good for this messed up economy ; ; cause artists get underpaid when transferring it to gold rather than PP.

    Here's my scythe-wielder, half-elf Evelyn.
    (Still working on her shoes, just put sandals on her til I can come up with another idea..)
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    And my human.
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    Thank you for consideration, in advance! (๑´▽`๑) ✿