AwwPickles

Dradgas wrote: »

I really don't know why everyone keeps saying the people that are ragging on this event just want to keep market prices high. Since I'm still here trying to farm shadow missions yet I've still been unable to event get a single key, which to be fair I assume is because I can only do fairly low level shadow missions right now.

So yes I'm here and I will say this event in my opinion is kinda crap for a new player like me since I cannot participate unless I open my wallet and essentially pay 2.50$ per key. Am I not allowed to feel that this is stupid? Because it feels really stupid.

You're allowed to feel this event is stupid but would you rather everyone here get the Alternative?

Where this "event" is 100% Purely NX ONLY?



If you want translation:

60 = 2 USD for 1 key.
600 = 20 USD for 10 keys + 1 Special key
1800 = 60 USD = 30 keys + 5 Special key
3000 = 100 USD = 50 keys + 15 Special key and 30 Divine Mineral Fragment

This event is for them is 100% NX only, you cannot participate without spending $$

I don't know about you but, having the option to earn keys for free seems like a better deal but maybe that's just me.

But you can say "why not just not have an event in the first place."

well okay then, just remember that before this event started every material started at low cost of 10 million each. with some mineral exceeding 30m each.

The less people able to run content, the more expensive materials are. which is why the erg market was a huge monopoly.

You see the same 20 people doing content and profiting for the longest time.

Remember when end game gear and outfits use to only cost approx 30-50m ? and now they're well past 200m and up to 3b?

Good luck telling a new player "Just buy a basic X , it's ONLY XX - XXX millions of gold."

This was a planned event by devs.

TW server has the same event going on.

https://event.beanfun.com/mabinogi/E20200529_1/index.aspx?EventADID=6618

Same exact drop table.

https://event.beanfun.com/mabinogi/EventAD/EventAD.aspx?EventADID=6157

No rates are shown for TW server because they're not required to.

Only difference?

Nexon added ability for you guys to farm keys from SM for you F2P.

And removed the 3rd and 4th bundle.

So you can stop bashing Nexon NA now.

Калашников wrote: »

AwwPickles wrote: »

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Is anyone complaining that there will be more of these materials in circulation or that free users have access, too? It seems like it's more about discrepancies between rates of getting key and the reward/percentages.

If Forgotten Tomb was a permanent feature (like reforges) it might be different, but some free users maybe feel they don't have a fair chance within the time limit of event ending.

This part is personal opinion, but I dislike when discussions turn into the semantics of term "P2W". Some say it only counts for PVP, but it's often used relative to whatever task the person is trying to do. It's all advantages pay, some just use term as shorthand.

The percentages are only there because it's required by certain country Laws.

is 0.007% such an advantage over 0.005% ?

if all you saw was https://event.beanfun.com/mabinogi/EventAD/EventAD.aspx?EventADID=6157
could you even argue Pay To Win? because either way you're getting 1 of the items from the list.

buying the NX key bundle gives you 1 "special" key, the other 10 keys are exactly the same as event keys..

Can you argue that 1 extra "special" key will give you a huge advantage?

"but they can buy more keys than I can farm myself that's an advantage"

True, but can't somebody else farm more than another person is willing to spend?
are the keys drop table truly that different? would you or somebody else not benefit too if they ended up selling the excess material?

We can Argue what is truly P2W all day and never come to an agreement.

Dradgas wrote: »

To me 40 million might as well be 150 million from what I've been able to save up so far, so it's rather a mute point to me as a player. But if this really is better for the casuals then I guess I can't really say much more then, alright I guess.

Prices materials are slowly going down, Broken Guardian blade was the ONLY broken material that was heavily controlled and inflated.
they started off at 1m.. spiked to 10m, skyrocketed to 50m+ and sat at 100m+ for the longest time..

The same could be said for Erg materials. how an 8m subtle mark spikes up to 10m to 20m to sit on it's throne at 30m..

Dradgas wrote: »

I mean I get where you're coming at from here, but as one of the casuals you're speaking of I haven't really been able to get a key to drop yet from the easier shadow missions. So I don't know if the casual players like me unless they've been playing for awhile will really be able to get anything that's rather costly on the market. If anything I'd say the players that have the good gear that you're talking about and are able to spam shadow missions to gather keys will just be able to amass more then they already have.

But that's just my opinion as a giant casual, I probably don't even know what I'm talking about.

This event is similar to the Saint Guardian Event not long ago, except this time they added optional NX keys (which is overpriced for what you're paying for)
if you spam elite SMs in open/public parties you will eventually get enough keys to open all 66 chests just by participation. It's a dedication event meant to benefit the majority

The Divine weapons are hardly "P2W" because they're pretty much garbage, (0 rolls for MC/HE and trash stats) they're fodder to convince dumb whales to spend money.

(They're the same stat as if they were dropped from Baltane.)


The only thing this event does is drop the prices of all the overpriced Erg/divine weapon materials.

150m broken guardian blade are now slowly going down to 40m thanks to event. (Nao prices)

The only ones complaining about "P2W" are the people who can no longer control the market to their whim.

or the Salty people who bought materials to craft divine weapons leading up to this event.

"Wao I spent XXXm to craft my X and now event made the mats cost XXm cheaper, oh look they added NX as an Option on the event, MUST BE P2W"

Now this is where "OH THIS IS P2W" bandwagon starts.