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Magic Spear Tournament Reorganization

NegumikoNegumiko
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Jousting is getting updated.

Link: https://mabinogi.nexon.com/page/news/event_view.asp?id=4890690


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Jousting Arena:
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Titles, Totems, Appearance Scrolls, Homestead Items, and More:
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  • HelsaHelsa
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    edited May 19, 2023
    Mhm. Already on it.

    https://forums.mabinogi.nexon.net/discussion/comment/163745/#Comment_163745

    It's scheduled to "go live" in Korea in May, so we'll have to wait and see if anything of the present mini-game made it into this version. Maybe it'll end up being like when the combat system changed, around the time of Fighter; it was better for the game overall, but the folks used to how it was needed to move on.
  • HelsaHelsa
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    Okay, here's what I think is gonna happen, regarding the game mechanics. The "special new skills" will replace racial combos. The skills might actually BE the existing combos plus a new one. So you select your skill/combo on the set-up pass and then it proceeds like a normal combo would but if you select another skill/combo on the striking pass it cancels your earlier skill. Total guess, but if I'm right you heard it here first folks! :)
  • CrimsọnCrimsọn
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    I bet Helsa can hardly contain herself with this JOUSTING update. :D
  • HelsaHelsa
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    Crimsọn wrote: »
    I bet Helsa can hardly contain herself with this JOUSTING update. :D

    There isn't enough details yet so, for now, we have to speculate about what may happen. As such the speculation will, of course, range from "this will make things worse" to "this will be awesome; maybe even Crimsọn will finally show up, at the arena, and we can all give them the good solid poiking they deserve."
  • CrimsọnCrimsọn
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    Helsa wrote: »
    Crimsọn wrote: »
    I bet Helsa can hardly contain herself with this JOUSTING update. :D

    There isn't enough details yet so, for now, we have to speculate about what may happen. As such the speculation will, of course, range from "this will make things worse" to "this will be awesome; maybe even Crimsọn will finally show up, at the arena, and we can all give them the good solid poiking they deserve."

    I might actually show up, so I think this is a good thing. Especially since they are updating the rewards which is something we have wanted for YEARS. The current rewards as they are are not worth the time and effort. Players mostly just passed through that content for quest purposes and never returned. This will give people a reason to participate.

    You should be happy you jousting nutcase. :D
  • HelsaHelsa
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    This.
  • NegumikoNegumiko
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    One of the first things I noticed in the trailer video for this update was the Commerce Tent in the Jousting Arena. This was probably just added for the trailer so I'm probably overthinking it. But it would be cool if this turns out to be a real Commerce Tent added allowing you to actually trade there. One massive benefit to one actually being there is it would create more traffic for Jousting Arena and more people that never even think about Jousting may consider trying it if they had this extra reason to visit and check it out.
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  • HelsaHelsa
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    edited May 25, 2023
    Negumiko wrote: »
    One of the first things I noticed in the trailer video for this update was the Commerce Tent in the Jousting Arena. This was probably just added for the trailer so I'm probably overthinking it. But it would be cool if this turns out to be a real Commerce Tent added allowing you to actually trade there. One massive benefit to one actually being there is it would create more traffic for Jousting Arena and more people that never even think about Jousting may consider trying it if they had this extra reason to visit and check it out.
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    It might be just for the video. The recently released Korean live-stream video of jousting shows the arena looking more-or-less the same-ole-same-ole so maybe all this fancy-schmancy stuff is for the finals?

    I'm going through the live-stream video now. Three of the four "skills" I think can be understood, if you don't read Korean. Racial combos are GONE. That is actually very good news as the present system favours humans over the other races and handicaps giants versus the other races. So we should see more giants and elves at the arena.

    Damage is ... a little different but I don't want to comment any further on it, at this time, until I've gone over all the shown matches, in detail, and understand them better.

    The live-stream shows that the match viewing signs have not been nerfed although they don't show them being used while a live match is under way. Still I'm happy about that. Without those signs ... well let's just say, I'd suddenly have a lot more free time on my hands.
  • HelsaHelsa
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    Helsa wrote: »

    ... and that.
  • CrimsọnCrimsọn
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    Helsa wrote: »
    Helsa wrote: »

    ... and that.

    That was a rabbit hole.

    But yeah wow uh I guess we'll be able to upgrade jousting skills?
  • HelsaHelsa
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    Crimsọn wrote: »
    Helsa wrote: »
    Helsa wrote: »

    ... and that.

    That was a rabbit hole.

    But yeah wow uh I guess we'll be able to upgrade jousting skills?

    It doesn't look like it. We'll know better once it goes live here, but from what I've seen, so far, the skills seem to be over-emphasised in the new game mechanic. So being able to train them to make them even stronger, I think, would be bad. There are some things that I like about this update, but there are others that give me pause.
  • CrimsọnCrimsọn
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    Helsa wrote: »
    Crimsọn wrote: »
    Helsa wrote: »
    Helsa wrote: »

    ... and that.

    That was a rabbit hole.

    But yeah wow uh I guess we'll be able to upgrade jousting skills?

    It doesn't look like it. We'll know better once it goes live here, but from what I've seen, so far, the skills seem to be over-emphasised in the new game mechanic. So being able to train them to make them even stronger, I think, would be bad. There are some things that I like about this update, but there are others that give me pause.

    I mean it looks like there is an upgrade system of sorts. Always gotta have an edge in mabinogi over others.
  • HelsaHelsa
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    edited June 16, 2023
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    ... and that.

    That was a rabbit hole.

    But yeah wow uh I guess we'll be able to upgrade jousting skills?

    It doesn't look like it. We'll know better once it goes live here, but from what I've seen, so far, the skills seem to be over-emphasised in the new game mechanic. So being able to train them to make them even stronger, I think, would be bad. There are some things that I like about this update, but there are others that give me pause.

    I mean it looks like there is an upgrade system of sorts. Always gotta have an edge in mabinogi over others.

    Skill 4, basically, cancels the pass. That's a binary action; either it happens or it does not. The let's plays, from Korea, show that folks using it for the very first time, were able to use it without fail, everytime. So, there is no building up of competency, in the skill, occurring. All the other skills inflict bonus damage. The amount of bonus damage has been announced. Again, the let's plays from Korea show the folks getting the full amount and without fail. So, again there is no apparent building up of competency, in those skills either. Furthermore, the videos show that everyone gets use of all the skills immediately. So, building up in a collection sense, like it is with Bard, Ninja, and Chain, for example, is not indicated. Nothing has been announce officially about the skills being trainable. For these reasons I don't think they are trainable skills; you just get them, and then you're off to the races.
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    In the Mabi NA install, Lileas, the girl at the arena, already has new references to the up-coming Magic Spear Tournament, one of which, causes a game crash!
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    Over the last month, several references to the Magic Spear Tournament have been quietly introduced into the game. Maybe, we'll be getting the Magic Spear Tournament in August. The update live-stream, for August, happens today at 5p eastern.
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    Maybe they'll be announcing it. Here is the announcement for the live-stream, and here is the Twitch channel link where it will happen.
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    Note to self:
    Check if skill 3 works on WS-splits.