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New Gachapon...

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  • BuffalosBuffalos
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    nevyn25 wrote: »
    randomized rewards is how gacha works in the first place though, since it's a voluntary gamble. but I absolutely agree the rates should be better. now it's mostly a few players pulling something good on their first (and sometimes only) gach, while most buy at least 2 stacks and get nothing. and the coin system in and of itself is good, since it guarantees something worthwhile, but it could indeed have been pulled of a lot better

    Filler rewards shouldn't be the exact same stuff that was filler in the past five gachas. It's gotten extremely stale.
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  • nevyn25nevyn25
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    can't disagree with you on that. it's one of the reasons I'm skipping this gach (aside from the terrible drop rates and useless coins of course)
  • watercat0watercat0
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    Aeolys wrote: »
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    Oh my god, that article he cited was over 5 years old. Complete gachapon was already illegal for over 5 years; right after the npc coins were around. Its been five years and nothing happened. Good job watercat0, you got us good.

    wait so lets break this down, the only reason japan is getting almost no bad gotcha is because of that law, which over the years we never knew until now, when i read this news post from reddit (it was front page). over the past year we been complaining about why japan always gets the best anime stuff and the best gotcha stuff and over the years we never once understood why. now we do understand!

    US/EU were the milk cows in the mabinogi farmville. all this this congress/lawmakers never once past a law to stop complete gocha in gaming because in 2010-2012 it wasn't that popular or newsworthy. after like 5 years in fighting digital laws Valve become an example of laws and internet gaming in US showing that laws do exist for a reason. However it become worst because we all know how bad it become in gaming when many other companies try to crew us over. Nexon was no better, they used old tricks to get us to spend more money knowing it will work every time.

    ALL THIS TIME, IT WAS EVERYONE IN US/EU FAULT. WE ALL ARE TO BLAME!!!!!!
  • RheyRhey
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    edited June 24, 2017
    watercat0 wrote: »
    Aeolys wrote: »
    Edit:
    Oh my god, that article he cited was over 5 years old. Complete gachapon was already illegal for over 5 years; right after the npc coins were around. Its been five years and nothing happened. Good job watercat0, you got us good.

    wait so lets break this down, the only reason japan is getting almost no bad gotcha is because of that law, which over the years we never knew until now, when i read this news post from reddit (it was front page). over the past year we been complaining about why japan always gets the best anime stuff and the best gotcha stuff and over the years we never once understood why. now we do understand!

    US/EU were the milk cows in the mabinogi farmville. all this this congress/lawmakers never once past a law to stop complete gocha in gaming because in 2010-2012 it wasn't that popular or newsworthy. after like 5 years in fighting digital laws Valve become an example of laws and internet gaming in US showing that laws do exist for a reason. However it become worst because we all know how bad it become in gaming when many other companies try to crew us over. Nexon was no better, they used old tricks to get us to spend more money knowing it will work every time.

    ALL THIS TIME, IT WAS EVERYONE IN US/EU FAULT. WE ALL ARE TO BLAME!!!!!!

    My friend...

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    It's outdated and irrelevant outside of JP.

  • watercat0watercat0
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    Rhey wrote: »

    My friend...

    It's outdated and irrelevant outside of JP.

    Every last one of us is to blame for allowing Nexon to do this to everyone outside the KR and JP lands. Sure we were only kids a few years a ago and sure Nexon did put measures to keep this well hidden. It will never be irrelevant that we help cause this from the very beginning to today.
  • SebastianSebastian
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    Seeing people reply to watercat is just painful.

    He's an old school troll, y'all.
  • EmerisEmeris
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    Do any of the new wings flap or are they all static?
    I'm seeing conflicted reports on this, and I'd really like to know for sure...
  • GretaGreta
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    edited June 25, 2017
    watercat0 wrote: »
    Sure we were only kids a few years a ago

    And you are a still kid.
  • ZeoZeo
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    Emeris wrote: »
    Do any of the new wings flap or are they all static?
    I'm seeing conflicted reports on this, and I'd really like to know for sure...

    They do flap, thankfully. :)
  • GretaGreta
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    Zeo wrote: »
    Emeris wrote: »
    Do any of the new wings flap or are they all static?
    I'm seeing conflicted reports on this, and I'd really like to know for sure...

    They do flap, thankfully. :)

    Even the large ones? :o
  • ROan2011ROan2011
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    Greta wrote: »
    Zeo wrote: »
    Emeris wrote: »
    Do any of the new wings flap or are they all static?
    I'm seeing conflicted reports on this, and I'd really like to know for sure...

    They do flap, thankfully. :)

    Even the large ones? :o

    The inferno starlight ceremony wings i got do flap
  • pawcalypsepawcalypse
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    ROan2011 wrote: »
    Greta wrote: »
    Zeo wrote: »
    Emeris wrote: »
    Do any of the new wings flap or are they all static?
    I'm seeing conflicted reports on this, and I'd really like to know for sure...

    They do flap, thankfully. :)

    Even the large ones? :o

    The inferno starlight ceremony wings i got do flap

    If you read this incorrectly - get your mind out the gutter.
    I want more tails, anyway.
  • ArjuneArjune
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    edited June 25, 2017
    Buffalos wrote: »

    Filler rewards shouldn't be the exact same stuff that was filler in the past five gachas. It's gotten extremely stale.

    EXACTLY! I've been saying this since 2-3 gachas ago .... especially about the training pots. They are literally KILLING the price of training pots and making it feel like it was a waste of time for everyone who actually trained their tedious skills like gunner and ninja. why train your skills guys? just BUY them. literally for cheap too

    A while back they were passing out movement speed potions too much and there was complaints and they stopped.... but they still keep bringing back the training pots. at this point I wouldn't mind seeing movement speed pots again if they came in stacks of like 5-10 and weren't stupidly common like every 5 gachas you get one. The training pots though.... they need to stop. you can buy enough pots for certain skills to train it from rank F to 1 for like 2 mil or less if you wanted at this point. the ENTIRE SKILL, all ranks! that's pathetic

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  • watercat0watercat0
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    Sebastian wrote: »
    Seeing people reply to watercat is just painful.

    He's an old school troll, y'all.

    not now, if we dont stand up and force nexon to quit the bad gocha you'll only get more bad gotcha.

    #standuptonexon
  • GretaGreta
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    watercat0 wrote: »
    Sebastian wrote: »
    Seeing people reply to watercat is just painful.

    He's an old school troll, y'all.

    not now, if we dont stand up and force nexon to quit the bad gocha you'll only get more bad gotcha.

    #standuptonexon

    #nooneusehashtagsanymore
  • SebastianSebastian
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    Greta wrote: »
    #nooneusehashtagsanymore

    You do realize you're only feeding him, right? You're actively extending his stay. Just stop.
  • GretaGreta
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    Sebastian wrote: »
    Greta wrote: »
    #nooneusehashtagsanymore

    You do realize you're only feeding him, right? You're actively extending his stay. Just stop.

    Okay i'll stop. Sorry. I should have realized that watercat0 is that type of guy who never changes their mind and will never listen to others. Sigh.
  • dra011dra011
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    Arjune wrote: »
    Buffalos wrote: »

    Filler rewards shouldn't be the exact same stuff that was filler in the past five gachas. It's gotten extremely stale.

    EXACTLY! I've been saying this since 2-3 gachas ago .... especially about the training pots. They are literally KILLING the price of training pots and making it feel like it was a waste of time for everyone who actually trained their tedious skills like gunner and ninja. why train your skills guys? just BUY them. literally for cheap too

    A while back they were passing out movement speed potions too much and there was complaints and they stopped.... but they still keep bringing back the training pots. at this point I wouldn't mind seeing movement speed pots again if they came in stacks of like 5-10 and weren't stupidly common like every 5 gachas you get one. The training pots though.... they need to stop. you can buy enough pots for certain skills to train it from rank F to 1 for like 2 mil or less if you wanted at this point. the ENTIRE SKILL, all ranks! that's pathetic

    i agree with the fact the having the same filler items over and over is not needed heck filler items are not really needed at all with how the rates have been lately.
    Also the whole i trained my skills the hard way so everyone has to mentality is asinine you train the skills the hard way they used pots different method same result not everyone wants to spam smokescreen for hours on end to get that 0.01 exp every hour plus there isn't a pot of every skill in the game so i don't see the problem here plus ninja pots are nice until we get/if we get that kr ninja update.


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  • watercat0watercat0
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    guys you can hate me for whatever sick reason you think but we all agree that nexon is milking everyone in NA/EU and will you allow it to continue? are you crazy or are you doing to do something about it.
  • pawcalypsepawcalypse
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    watercat0 wrote: »
    guys you can hate me for whatever sick reason you think but we all agree that nexon is milking everyone in NA/EU and will you allow it to continue? are you crazy or are you doing to do something about it.

    We will keep allowing them to continue. It is their game, the only way to get anything is to get milked and by chance get whatever form of satisfaction that can be achieved through gambling - trial and error of gachapon.