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  • AtaraxizAtaraxiz
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    edited September 5, 2017
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Ataraxiz wrote: »
    I didn't know this - as you can tell by my initial post. I had nothing to do with this situation and my advice was directed at those who have experienced harassment, not the OP directly.

    I care about those people who need this advice and therefore I made my experience known without giving any details. Whether you think I've actually experienced this or not - that is not the point of my post. My post is about what to do or feel if a situation happens. It's merely related to the topic, not directly involved.
    In case you didn't notice. I didn't disagree with your initial post. I simply implied this thread was better off dead.

    You were not defending yourself against anything in this thread. ~ Reading it will help you comprehend it better.
    Kouyioue wrote: »
    They're just going to keep replying in order to be the " " last-words " " .
    You are part of the equation.

    No matter how many people like what you post, or how many posts you like. This thread's purpose is the same.

    I was defending myself against your comment towards mine. Again, my post had nothing to do with OP's intentions . It was simple advice. It was on-topic and was directed to people being harassed, as I've previously stated.

    OP's intentions aren't my own. My intention was to inform others how I've recovered from my own similar situation. I don't involve myself with drama of other's - I didn't inflame any post made by OP. I simply gave advice regarding the topic :3

    Maybe you misunderstood me as I misunderstood you - it's simple human miscommunication.

    This thread may have been better off dead, however, my post was advice regarding how to handle harassment. As to which I will repeat so the thread isn't completely derailed due to this small argument:

    Harassment is common in-game and on the forums. If you take Mabinogi screenshots via the menu, you have better chances of solving your case. If Nexon does not take action: ignore it and move on, don't let it stop you from enjoying the game.

    I will offer no further posts on this thread to stop it from being derailed.
    Sherri
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited September 5, 2017
    Ataraxiz wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Ataraxiz wrote: »
    I didn't know this - as you can tell by my initial post. I had nothing to do with this situation and my advice was directed at those who have experienced harassment, not the OP directly.

    I care about those people who need this advice and therefore I made my experience known without giving any details. Whether you think I've actually experienced this or not - that is not the point of my post. My post is about what to do or feel if a situation happens. It's merely related to the topic, not directly involved.
    In case you didn't notice. I didn't disagree with your initial post. I simply implied this thread was better off dead.

    You were not defending yourself against anything in this thread. ~ Reading it will help you comprehend it better.
    Kouyioue wrote: »
    They're just going to keep replying in order to be the " " last-words " " .
    You are part of the equation.

    No matter how many people like what you post, or how many posts you like. This thread's purpose is the same.

    I was defending myself against your comment towards mine. Again, my post had nothing to do with OP's intentions . It was simple advice. It was on-topic and was directed to people being harassed, as I've previously stated.

    OP's intentions aren't my own. My intention was to inform others how I've recovered from my own similar situation. I don't involve myself with drama of other's - I didn't inflame any post made by OP. I simply gave advice regarding the topic :3

    Maybe you misunderstood me as I misunderstood you - it's simple human miscommunication.

    This thread may have been better off dead, however, my post was advice regarding how to handle harassment. As to which I will repeat so the thread isn't completely derailed due to this small argument:

    Harassment is common in-game and on the forums. If you take Mabinogi screenshots via the menu, you have better chances of solving your case. If Nexon does not take action: ignore it and move on, don't let it stop you from enjoying the game.

    I will offer no further posts on this thread to stop it from being derailed.
    Your initial post was not in defense of anything said in this dead topic. It's okay if you wish to pretend you didn't know what I was referring to. If anything to get the last word. If you reply again I will unlike your initial post to satisfy the ignorance you're displaying. Good night.

    I was the first person to like/agree with your post. It's a shame you only see opinions from one side of the window.

  • NilremNilrem
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    If you are going to bring back a dead topic, at least use correct information to fan the flames.
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    This thread was created with the intent to harass a certain person (with a 3 letter name) on the Tarlach Server.

    1. This person was never brought into question until I took a guess at who it was and ended up being right.
    2. This 3 letter name is not that person's actual IGN on the server. The name(s) of this individual are much longer and vary. People on this server just needed an alias to simplify the identity.
    3. You only know who it is because I had a private talk with you explaining who this person was and what they have done in the past. Even when what they have done to others was revealed to you, you still insisted they were the perfect little angel.
    4. I gave you my Discord name to add so I could take you to talk to the person in question to hear it from them. You never added me, so such information never became obtainable for you.
    5. This person in question found this entire topic and everything surrounding it as a joke. Not even phased. Right back to the usual actions.

    Just let this thread die already.
    Policroma
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited September 5, 2017
    Nilrem wrote: »
    If you are going to bring back a dead topic, at least use correct information to fan the flames.
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    This thread was created with the intent to harass a certain person (with a 3 letter name) on the Tarlach Server.

    1. This person was never brought into question until I took a guess at who it was and ended up being right.
    2. This 3 letter name is not that person's actual IGN on the server. The name(s) of this individual are much longer and vary. People on this server just needed an alias to simplify the identity.
    3. You only know who it is because I had a private talk with you explaining who this person was and what they have done in the past. Even when what they have done to others was revealed to you, you still insisted they were the perfect little angel.
    4. I gave you my Discord name to add so I could take you to talk to the person in question to hear it from them. You never added me, so such information never became obtainable for you.
    5. This person in question found this entire topic and everything surrounding it as a joke. Not even phased. Right back to the usual actions.

    Just let this thread die already.
    You are in-game friends with the OP. ~ "I totally believe it was a random guess.... uh huh... yeah ... right." ~ I have spies on Tarlach.

    Your communication with me was one-way. If you recall correctly, I did not reply to you; and this was not because I'm blind or stupid.


  • NilremNilrem
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    If you are going to bring back a dead topic, at least use correct information to fan the flames.
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    This thread was created with the intent to harass a certain person (with a 3 letter name) on the Tarlach Server.

    1. This person was never brought into question until I took a guess at who it was and ended up being right.
    2. This 3 letter name is not that person's actual IGN on the server. The name(s) of this individual are much longer and vary. People on this server just needed an alias to simplify the identity.
    3. You only know who it is because I had a private talk with you explaining who this person was and what they have done in the past. Even when what they have done to others was revealed to you, you still insisted they were the perfect little angel.
    4. I gave you my Discord name to add so I could take you to talk to the person in question to hear it from them. You never added me, so such information never became obtainable for you.
    5. This person in question found this entire topic and everything surrounding it as a joke. Not even phased. Right back to the usual actions.

    Just let this thread die already.
    You are in-game friends with the OP. ~ "I totally believe it was a random guess.... uh huh... yeah ... right... " ~ I have spies on Tarlach.


    OP was a regular at a hangout spot for most major players of Tarlach, Channel 7 Tir.
    Most people in that hangout spot know eachother. Every person involved in this situation has been there at some point.

    However, you seem to believe you can discredit an entire argument because I happen to know OP in game on any level.

    And if you REALLY have spies on Tarlach, tell me. Where am I most often found? Where is the person in question most often found?
    And what color is the main outfit of the person in question, for all identities? Who is the person I'm married to on my giant? What is my family name?
    If you really want to make the spy claim, I'll have you put it to the test.

    This entire topic began because of one person in question pushing things too far with an unnamed individual, who is friends with the OP, more than I ever will be.

    I happened to guess who it was correctly, and wanted to leave it at that.

    Then you come into this topic and think the person who pushed things too far is innocent of all things, and start an argument to defend this user at every turn, even when information entirely works against you.

    You refuse to jump in game to meet me or the person in question to hear the full story, something that your "spies" could have also easily done in your place.
    Even when I tell you over messages on the forum everything about the situation, you insist the person who caused this entire situation is a perfectly innocent little angel, and that everyone else involved is harassing them. (Something said individual found hysterical.)

    On top of that, I gave you a free chance to go and meet this person you thought was being harassed on Discord for a direct 1 on 1 chat.
    You never took that chance, even though that person decided it would be worth it to wait for you to arrive.

    I gave you many ways to get the information you would need to put all of this to rest, but you decided against it.
    Instead, you decide to give yourself this imaginary story in your head, where everything you think happens is true.

    The only thing this topic deserves now is a lock, as any attempt to give you information you need is in vain.
    All it has ended up as is a pointless argument against your presumptions.
    Sherri
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited September 5, 2017
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    Nilrem wrote: »
    If you are going to bring back a dead topic, at least use correct information to fan the flames.
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    This thread was created with the intent to harass a certain person (with a 3 letter name) on the Tarlach Server.

    1. This person was never brought into question until I took a guess at who it was and ended up being right.
    2. This 3 letter name is not that person's actual IGN on the server. The name(s) of this individual are much longer and vary. People on this server just needed an alias to simplify the identity.
    3. You only know who it is because I had a private talk with you explaining who this person was and what they have done in the past. Even when what they have done to others was revealed to you, you still insisted they were the perfect little angel.
    4. I gave you my Discord name to add so I could take you to talk to the person in question to hear it from them. You never added me, so such information never became obtainable for you.
    5. This person in question found this entire topic and everything surrounding it as a joke. Not even phased. Right back to the usual actions.

    Just let this thread die already.
    You are in-game friends with the OP. ~ "I totally believe it was a random guess.... uh huh... yeah ... right... " ~ I have spies on Tarlach.


    OP was a regular at a hangout spot for most major players of Tarlach, Channel 7 Tir.
    Most people in that hangout spot know eachother. Every person involved in this situation has been there at some point.

    However, you seem to believe you can discredit an entire argument because I happen to know OP in game on any level.

    And if you REALLY have spies on Tarlach, tell me. Where am I most often found? Where is the person in question most often found?
    And what color is the main outfit of the person in question, for all identities? Who is the person I'm married to on my giant? What is my family name?
    If you really want to make the spy claim, I'll have you put it to the test.

    This entire topic began because of one person in question pushing things too far with an unnamed individual, who is friends with the OP, more than I ever will be.

    I happened to guess who it was correctly, and wanted to leave it at that.

    Then you come into this topic and think the person who pushed things too far is innocent of all things, and start an argument to defend this user at every turn, even when information entirely works against you.

    You refuse to jump in game to meet me or the person in question to hear the full story, something that your "spies" could have also easily done in your place.
    Even when I tell you over messages on the forum everything about the situation, you insist the person who caused this entire situation is a perfectly innocent little angel, and that everyone else involved is harassing them. (Something said individual found hysterical.)

    On top of that, I gave you a free chance to go and meet this person you thought was being harassed on Discord for a direct 1 on 1 chat.
    You never took that chance, even though that person decided it would be worth it to wait for you to arrive.

    I gave you many ways to get the information you would need to put all of this to rest, but you decided against it.
    Instead, you decide to give yourself this imaginary story in your head, where everything you think happens is true.

    The only thing this topic deserves now is a lock, as any attempt to give you information you need is in vain.
    All it has ended up as is a pointless argument against your presumptions.
    The only thing I seem to be is correct from the word go. This thread is indeed about a specific person. Despite several attempts to deny it. The best way to deal with harassment most definitely does not include taking it to the forum to escalate the situation farther, let alone dwell on it. I don't need any information. You have done a marvelous job of providing what was needed to prove the real intention of the thread. ~ Cheers.

    @Kouyioue ~ A third grader can save a copy of the website. This doesn't take away from a person's right to edit their posts (change their mind).

  • NilremNilrem
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    The only thing I seem to be is correct from the word go.
    I don't need any information.



    And with that, show is over.
    Awaiting topic lock.
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited September 5, 2017
    Nilrem wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    The only thing I seem to be is correct from the word go.
    I don't need any information.



    And with that, show is over.
    Awaiting topic lock.
    If it were yours, you could request it be locked. ~ *hint* (report yourself) .. -- now tell me another story about the randomness of this thread. :)

  • KouyioueKouyioue
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    You haven't changed your mind. And cannot prove it
    HardmuscleSherri
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited October 26, 2017
    Kouyioue wrote: »
    You haven't changed your mind. And cannot prove it
    I don't care if you mirrored the site with HTTrack ... like I did when I made the MML Library ... -- You're not making sense.
    Kouyioue wrote: »
    a much cleaner more technologically advanced, contractually questionable way xD
    a what? :D ~ .... [removed]

    4rhxTY7.png

    Lol @ Ctrl+S
  • GretaGreta
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    Oh, i missed something here.

    yNiBv8S.gif

    Done. This thread looks way better now.
    PolicromaHardmuscleSherri
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