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Isn't Final Hit already limited enough? It's not like you can constantly use it all the time. Making it useless after the sixth hit would just make it useless at all. Why even have it then? Did they actually implement it in KR?
From what i read they did, and it was really rough on the human characters over there since a lot of them relied on it
Was this recent? How long ago? If you happen to know. Ah, and thank you. I really appreciate this info.
The next change causes all weapons to have a contribution to the knockdown gauge while in FH. From what I've seen this means that dual wielded swords will only get 6 hits before an enemy gets knocked down. This is very a much a nerf as currently you can an infinite amount of hits on enemies with dual wielded swords. Secondly, 2h swords can (with stacking some other buffs) get up to 5-6 hits before an enemy gets knocked down. This is actually a quasi-buff. It's better than no failed berserk music but not as good as failed berserk music. Overall some players will see this as a benefit as they can now final hit with a fanatic/divine sword without having to first fail music.
With this update giants also got a skill called "Final Strike" which is essentially human FH that breaks through passive defenses and also gains speed as it goes on. Anyway, humans are the weakest race in the game at the moment and have nothing going for them. They are basically 3x weaker in archer than elves and have nothing in their kit that isn't completely beaten by giants. The only high hitting DPS strats as a human are lance charge spam and SS->impale which are done better by giants and elves respectively. Humans have been reduced to brionac slaves where if you are trying to speed clear any content bring one for brio and stack something else.
Ah, if you don't mind, I'm a little confused. After dual wielding swords and hitting a mob 6 times, that mob goes down (knockdown). Can you then move onto a new mob (if available)? Can you then move back to that mob after their brief, knock down induced invulnerability?
I logged in to ask the same thing
also gonna include if enemies immune to knockdown get knocked down
I think it means that every hit will add to the knock down gauge. So if the enemy is fresh it will take 6 hits to knock them down with FH and take less subsequent hits to knock them down again. And no, that change will not affect how FH plays against AHS mobs. It's pretty much like how you can use FH with a 2h sword on any AHS mob now. It will stack the knockdown gauge, but it won't knock them down.
I just wanna clear the air with this.
Final hit IS NOT AT ALL getting nerfed. For anyone who doesn't know what I mean when I say "weakness" in regards to final hit it's actually getting buffed. The nerf to final hit is a bug fix. The 6 hits thing is after 6 hits with a 2 handed weapon the enemy will be knocked back/away/down and then you can instantly just stun lock them again. The whole final hit thing is FUD because for 99% of players in NA it's a direct, hard buff. One of the kr devs said they know some people will be unhappy with this change to giants, and they're working on bringing more balance to the game.
I won't disagree with the campfire thing though.
Final hit isn't getting nerfed. The 6 hits is for 2h knockdown (Right now it happens EVERY hit). Dual wield isn't being changed.
I really do hope a lot of people show up for the campfire event. It's going to be embarrassing if they don't and will look horrible for the game. I mean it's easier for KR to have a mabinogi conference because their fans are closer together, our country is way bigger and therefore our fan base is more scattered across this continent. Not a lot of people are gonna fly over for some free food, a few memorabilia trinkets, and some questions. heh.
As long as there is some diligence into finding balance, it will be ok. But the longer it takes, discontent will grow faster.
As for campfire, the difference will be how many non-forum speakers decide to go.
Giants are already op and now they are going to give them Final Strike. Giants master race.
@Helsa you think it's bad now? Our future is going to be this; final strike + newbie giant + tutorial update. XD
what they meant with balancing races is giving each races a unique advantage over the other
there is a big difference between equal and balance
equal is having both or multiple sides to be the same
balanced is having both or multiple sides to be not necessarily the same
but each will counter act or counterweight one another
if one race is basically inferior to others then it is the players responsibility to adapt and overcome those inferiorities
mabinogi offers alot of customization and freewill to its players that other mmorpgs dont
from looks, skills, talent/classes, battle style, stats, etc
there is always a different approach to everything
and basically there are many ways to experiment in game on how to overcome those inferiorities
if stats of other races are better there are alot of stat modifiers in game
from enchants and reforges to totems and hs items
even if mabinogi had only one race and each player is capable of obtaining everything in game
that attitude will basically remain and u will always end up complaining on how others are better than u
take it this way people that try to drag others down have a hard time improving themselves
because they are busy envying how others are better than themselves that they forgot to make themselves better
people that look ahead of themselves towards a goal have all the time and eagerness to improve themselves
cause they have all their focus on themselves in improving and overcoming their on weaknesses
used to be like u in real life (sort of or maybe worst)
so im telling u this cause ive been there and not to insult u or bullying u or to make u angry
im basically telling u to look at it in a different point of u even if its just in game
complaining on the advantage of others wont get u anywhere
u may be able to drag them down and cause them to be at a disadvantage
but u will still end up where u were and each time u are faced on same situation
u will blame it on others and how they are better
and the cycle of envy goes on
Why are you always typing like this? Are you trying to make a poem or something? Or it's because you are not good with punctuation? It's kind of annoying to read stuff like this. Just being honest and curious here.
Maybe using a phone?
a habit that i end up having after studying and doing computer programming for years.
i find it easier to type and read when things are compacted and sentences / lines are separated.
im still trying to correct it at some point and ur not the first one to mention that.
Im still programming every once in a while so its harder to avoid this habit.
my programming teachers back in college also had this kind of habit.
tho maybe not everyone that does programming have it.
and i think im bad with punctuation cause those symbols have different uses in some programming languages
Not everyone who plays can attend it either, there is no physical way i can get on a plane to attend the event. Eu doesnt have its own server so we have to play na, which means irl events dont work for at least a solid chunk of the player base
Sure while you are building up your character and facing others who are building up, it depends where both are on that journey in determining who is better at the time. But there is an ultimate capability for all races, which is what these kinds of discussions are about. At their ultimate capabilities some race WILL be best at PvP, whichever it happens to be, the same will be for PvE, and for Group vs Group. This kind of situation is comparable to what you were saying about different races complementing or counteracting each other. But at the end of the day, if say you play Mab for PvP and you have the handicapped race and you are fully developed facing fully developed opponents of the advantaged race, you're not gonna be happy more times than not. So there two ways to deal with this:
1) Allow people to perform race change at rebirth, or
2) Make all the races the same except for cosmetic differences,
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. It seems to me you're making some big assumptions about my personal character and intentions. If you're accusing me of being a troll or a crybaby or vindictive then you're way off the mark.
Still, I think making fun of someone's repeated deaths while there's still the opportinity to do so is a much better wakeup call. Staying silent to "look nice" leads to the madness of make-believe honor systems