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Is it worth it to go for dan ranks on firebolt?

AlexLightAlexLight
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As the topic says im wondering wether the dan ranks on firebolt are worth it since there seems to be only a small increase between firebolt r1 and dan 3, where the increase is much better on both lightningbolt and icebolt.
  1. Are dan ranks worthwhile for firbolt?17 votes
    1. Yes the are
       35% (6 votes)
    2. No its not worth it
       24% (4 votes)
    3. It depends on (comment)
       41% (7 votes)

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  • IyasenuIyasenu
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    It depends on whether you care about the increased Mana cost.
    Higher damage is what it is, but if you're chaincasting, the increased Mana cost might be a deal breaker.
  • AlexLightAlexLight
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    I indeed use it with chaincasting, so how notable is the dmg increase?
  • SugarAngelSugarAngel
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    edited November 25, 2018
    AlexLight wrote: »
    I indeed use it with chaincasting, so how notable is the dmg increase?

    At Dan 3 it's quite literally 6 more max damage - So however much more damage at max stacks it is for 3 more mana.. And, y'know, however much more mana it is for CC+4
  • OrkaneOrkane
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    edited November 25, 2018
    Honestly, the damage boost is basically non-existent. Remember, that the magic damage formulae are messy and going from 120 to 126 doesn't actually mean getting a 5% boost; for most people the boost will be much smaller. Let's say you have the following:
    Rank 1 magic weapon mastery
    Rank 1 bolt mastery
    Rank 1 fire mastery
    No combo card affecting firebolt
    No hebona set
    +150% crit modifier

    You'd be adding a whole 273 damage to your fully charge firebolt crits and that's before magic protection reduces your damage. If you simply want to get your skills to Dan 3 or if you've reached a point where that is genuinely the most worthwhile way to get stronger, then go for it but don't expect to get much out of it.

    Even if you've got a perfect setup for firebolt (hebona set effect, 85% combo card, r7 tribolt, 50 renown with Yvona, the new crit homestead thingy, level 20 bolt and fire mastery reforges against an enemy with no magic protection) then the jump from rank 1 to Dan 3 still only adds 555 damage.

    Basically, magic damage is calculated in a stupid way (though not as bad as alchemy) which means that danning most spells is actually pretty inconsequential.
    Blissfulkill
  • AlexLightAlexLight
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    ok thx i think i will hold off on it for now