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Lore in this game was lost long ago.
Shya. Like, Shakespeare is a thing? Theatre missions? I mean what?
Shakespeare is sooo 16th century.
This is a classic straw man argument.
See how Helsa has completely ignored the part where I said "Stop conflating normal inflation with the banana republic levels of hyperinflation that Alexina experienced", to make it look like I'm arguing that there would be "no" inflation? That's the straw man.
Nobody is arguing that. Of course inflation in games exists and is normal. I'm arguing that our inflation was abnormal. It should have taken a good few more years to inflate to this level had the cheaters not existed.
If a person used spawned-in gear to reach damage levels that are impossible now but might be possible in a few years, would that be all right? Would you still say "well there would still be power creep even without the cheaters"? It's technically true but it still doesn't negate the fact that it happened before it should have, in ways that shouldn't be allowed in fair gameplay.
Great! We're in agreement.
Just leave poor Mr. Straw Man aloneHay, it happens when people tend to skim than read.
Haha, if I come across any, I'll 10000% report them. Not like it will help but it'll bring mental stability for me. :')
Most people misuse it. I am not one of those people.
Helsa is intentionally directing the topic elsewhere. It's almost like she doesn't want to acknowledge that there was rampant cheating on our server.
But I get it. There's a large group of casuals who simply weren't in the loop, and another large group of casuals who are actively participating in the cancer. I don't really care which one she belongs to, there's no point in trying to explain things to someone who insists on deflecting the issue.
Gaea/Crims isn't the only one who has given up on reporting anything to Nexon. I've known other active end-game players who quit out of disgust at both the cheating and Nexon's inaction whenever they tried to report dodgy stuff. Whether anyone acknowledges it or not, this is a factor that's affecting Mabi's player retention.
Now she made a thread suggesting the idea for Nexon to sell Gold/Ducats in Cash Shop.
Like... Really? Is this how the problem should be solved? By making things more easy and just giving them everything on the tray to further ruin economy of this dead game?
We don't need that from Nexon.
If I was calling for that I would have put my IGN and server in the first post. That thread is just to discuss the idea of having Nexon put the botters out of business by out-competing with them, since all other efforts by them have failed.
This thread has covered many issues including: hyper-inflation induced by botters, inflation in general being inevitable, creating a reboot server, and more. My point is that inflation is inevitable and that has been acknowledged as I have acknowledged that botters contribute to it.
"At what cost?"
"Everything..."
Now, that they are in Nao, they have put all their eggs in one basket. Hopefully they will get caught, if any action is done against them at all.
*Is there a connection to these bot/spammers with the Reforge sellers in Belvast?
I'd like you to know that we're not thinking of the same bots. You're clearly thinking of the foreign gold selling businesses that have always been around in the game. The bots I blame for the current state of affairs in Alexina were player-made and operated, and distributed inside certain guilds.
I understand that you probably haven't heard the existence of these people until now. You needed to either have been part of them, or have eyes and ears inside those cliques/guilds, to know what they were up to. Obviously 99% of players didn't have that privilege. I wasn't supposed to know any of this either, but I was lucky enough to be friends with people who used to have access to those guilds (and got blackballed when they made numerous attempts to alert Nexon of their activities).
They had scripts for running missions with multiple alts, doing daily quests for adventurer seals and exp fruit, building squires, grinding skills etc; basically automating many things that were tedious and profitable. They used those cheats to fill their own bank accounts, and then paid extraordinary prices for all the good gear and useful things like rebirth potions. Others sold the gold to other players. These sellers aren't related to the ad bots, they're actual players in our server. When I mentioned trapping a bot on a fence earlier in this thread, it wasn't a gold ad bot - it was someone's main character, a person who has been leader/officer of several end-game guilds. This character is standing afk in Dunby right now.
So I don't blame you for the confusion. I made it worse by being vague, which I had to do to avoid identifying anyone directly because of the rules regarding harassment.
I actually think Nexon's done a decent enough job of curbing the botting and sales by those foreign businesses, so I don't really care about those. It's their inability to monitor and take down entire guilds of cheaters within their own playerbase that bothers me. These players were not permabanned like they should have been, and were basically allowed to continue pumping their ill-gained gold into our market to the point where it's at now.
You're quite resilient.