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Please merge Alexina and Nao Mk X

HelsaHelsa
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The last time anything was mentioned, about this, was more than 30 days ago. So, I'm creating a new thread, as per site policy, because we wouldn't want the powers that be to think that this issue has gone away now would we.

Please merge Alexina and Nao.

Helsa0151 of Alexina

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  • ChoCho
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    Please don't. Poll accounts with characters over a certain level like 10,000 made before a certain date like 2019 if they think there should a merge or something like that. Or figure out a solution against name sniping and pet names because the Mari/Tarlach/Ruairi merge was awful.

    People are still are still having conversations by bugle and pet names still can't be changed yet.
    Greta
  • HelsaHelsa
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    At the end of the day, if they want to they can, but I guess what's being said is that if they can solve the name issues then there isn't a problem.
  • ChoCho
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    edited March 8
    [img][/img]Yeah it's up to them. I'd be more okay with it if they could get people opinions on it though. There are a lot of ways to fake enthusiasm for a server merge.

    Making weekly merge threads. (no offense)
    Making alt accounts that ONLY comment on merge posts.
    That mannequin glitch stunt where they spam items into the words "MERGE" to make it look like it was a group effort.
    c23DHOb.png
    Getting a small discord group to bump a merge thread for weeks to keep it relevant, etc.

    Even if they do a poll, someone could abuse something and submit a bunch of yeses but even that is at least trying to gauge the communities opinion. The forums aren't a good representation because there are a lot of regulars but if they were to do a poll on the forums, they should be bugle-ing in-game about the poll regularly.
  • GretaGreta
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    edited March 9
    Can you stop abusing loophole of these forum rules? Multi-posting same topic over and over again, just because your old irrelevant threads don't get any traffic every time. This is getting really repetitive and annoying, it only makes you look too desperate that it's pathetic to read more and more by each time you repost this.

    Short answer - NO. Thanks to you.
  • HelsaHelsa
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    edited March 9
    Cho wrote: »
    [img][/img]Yeah it's up to them. I'd be more okay with it if they could get people opinions on it though. There are a lot of ways to fake enthusiasm for a server merge.

    Making weekly merge threads. (no offense)
    Making alt accounts that ONLY comment on merge posts.
    That mannequin glitch stunt where they spam items into the words "MERGE" to make it look like it was a group effort.
    c23DHOb.png
    Getting a small discord group to bump a merge thread for weeks to keep it relevant, etc.

    Even if they do a poll, someone could abuse something and submit a bunch of yeses but even that is at least trying to gauge the communities opinion. The forums aren't a good representation because there are a lot of regulars but if they were to do a poll on the forums, they should be bugle-ing in-game about the poll regularly.

    Nexon makes its decisions like other companies, by looking at the bottom line. If they merged the servers it's because they HAD to. It took them 10 years and then it wasn't even a complete merge; clearly they resisted merging until they were compelled to. I doubt whining by anyone effects them.
    Greta wrote: »
    Can you stop abusing loophole of these forum rules? Multi-posting same topic over and over again, just because your old irrelevant threads don't get any traffic every time. This is getting really repetitive and annoying, it only makes you look too desperate that it's pathetic to read more and more by each time you repost this.

    Short answer - NO. Thanks to you.

    No Greta. The forum rules are clear. You cannot necro a thread after 30 days of inactivity; period. Therefore, you have to make a new post; that's the rule. If it weren't for the necro rule, I wouldn't need to do this.
  • CrimsọnCrimsọn
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    edited March 9
    They can't do anything until they figure out how to remove all the +server tags from ALL the player's and pet's names. Then this time around only use letters or numbers for tiebreakers.
  • HelsaHelsa
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    Crimsọn wrote: »
    They can't do anything until they figure out how to remove all the +server tags from ALL the player's and pet's names. Then this time around only use letters or numbers for tiebreakers.

    As it stands today, a future merge would have the same hick-ups. One hopes that in the last two years Nexon has worked on how fix all that. But if Alexina ever reaches the level of crisis that the other servers were in and nothing has changed then Nexon will step on any toes that it needs to because it can.

    In the mean time if they can switch to record number for our record's primary key, rather than name with server of residence, then they would be able to offer unlimited naming; everyone could be Goku or Kitsune or BaconBananaPeanutButterSandwich, or whatever. Make it cheap enough and folks will change their names as often as their underwear! Hear that Nexon? MO MUNEH!!!!!
  • NegumikoNegumiko
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    edited March 10
    Greta wrote: »
    Can you stop abusing loophole of these forum rules? Multi-posting same topic over and over again, just because your old irrelevant threads don't get any traffic every time. This is getting really repetitive and annoying, it only makes you look too desperate that it's pathetic to read more and more by each time you repost this.

    Short answer - NO. Thanks to you.
    Helsa wrote: »
    No Greta. The forum rules are clear. You cannot necro a thread after 30 days of inactivity; period. Therefore, you have to make a new post; that's the rule. If it weren't for the necro rule, I wouldn't need to do this.

    if Nexon was actually listening to all the players in the merge posts before the merge even happened it would be clear to them most of us wanted a full merge from the start. this is their mistake, all of this could have been avoided if they just did a full merge instead. I see nothing wrong with Helsa creating this topic every 30 days, it follows forum rules. this is a topic that needs to keep being discussed in the forums. if Helsa stopped repeating this topic then Nexon would think their bad decisions are okay. this topic isn't going to go away simply cause Nexon doesn't like it and won't talk about it at all. as long as players are following the forum rules and discussing a topic in a civil manner they should be able to discuss their opinions on a server merge as much as they want.

    Helsa wrote: »
    Crimsọn wrote: »
    They can't do anything until they figure out how to remove all the +server tags from ALL the player's and pet's names. Then this time around only use letters or numbers for tiebreakers.

    As it stands today, a future merge would have the same hick-ups. One hopes that in the last two years Nexon has worked on how fix all that. But if Alexina ever reaches the level of crisis that the other servers were in and nothing has changed then Nexon will step on any toes that it needs to because it can.

    In the mean time if they can switch to record number for our record's primary key, rather than name with server of residence, then they would be able to offer unlimited naming; everyone could be Goku or Kitsune or BaconBananaPeanutButterSandwich, or whatever. Make it cheap enough and folks will change their names as often as their underwear! Hear that Nexon? MO MUNEH!!!!!

    I agree something should be done about the name change issues first. this is the main reason why a lot of players don't want the second merge yet. hopefully this will be fixed before another merge happens. Nexon completely avoiding the server merge topic makes it clear that they have no idea how to fix these issues or they just don't care enough to do anything about it. they will probably do a full merge when Alexina is dead enough. why would they want to pay to keep a near dead server up? saving the few active remaining players with a merge would make them more money then just shutting Alexina down.

    Bronzebreak
  • HelsaHelsa
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    Negumiko wrote: »
    Greta wrote: »
    Can you stop abusing loophole of these forum rules? Multi-posting same topic over and over again, just because your old irrelevant threads don't get any traffic every time. This is getting really repetitive and annoying, it only makes you look too desperate that it's pathetic to read more and more by each time you repost this.

    Short answer - NO. Thanks to you.
    Helsa wrote: »
    No Greta. The forum rules are clear. You cannot necro a thread after 30 days of inactivity; period. Therefore, you have to make a new post; that's the rule. If it weren't for the necro rule, I wouldn't need to do this.

    if Nexon was actually listening to all the players in the merge posts before the merge even happened it would be clear to them most of us wanted a full merge from the start. this is their mistake, all of this could have been avoided if they just did a full merge instead. I see nothing wrong with Helsa creating this topic every 30 days, it follows forum rules. this is a topic that needs to keep being discussed in the forums. if Helsa stopped repeating this topic then Nexon would think their bad decisions are okay. this topic isn't going to go away simply cause Nexon doesn't like it and won't talk about it at all. as long as players are following the forum rules and discussing a topic in a civil manner they should be able to discuss their opinions on a server merge as much as they want.

    Well, that and I think that the necro rule is stupid. The best way to show that a rule is stupid is to follow it to the letter.
    Negumiko wrote: »
    Helsa wrote: »
    Crimsọn wrote: »
    They can't do anything until they figure out how to remove all the +server tags from ALL the player's and pet's names. Then this time around only use letters or numbers for tiebreakers.

    As it stands today, a future merge would have the same hick-ups. One hopes that in the last two years Nexon has worked on how fix all that. But if Alexina ever reaches the level of crisis that the other servers were in and nothing has changed then Nexon will step on any toes that it needs to because it can.

    In the mean time if they can switch to record number for our record's primary key, rather than name with server of residence, then they would be able to offer unlimited naming; everyone could be Goku or Kitsune or BaconBananaPeanutButterSandwich, or whatever. Make it cheap enough and folks will change their names as often as their underwear! Hear that Nexon? MO MUNEH!!!!!

    I agree something should be done about the name change issues first. this is the main reason why a lot of players don't want the second merge yet. hopefully this will be fixed before another merge happens. Nexon completely avoiding the server merge topic makes it clear that they have no idea how to fix these issues or they just don't care enough to do anything about it. they will probably do a full merge when Alexina is dead enough. why would they want to pay to keep a near dead server up? saving the few active remaining players with a merge would make them more money then just shutting Alexina down.

    In the same way that a lot of Fundamentalists are trying to mess up the world in order to bring back the Messiah and cause Judgement Day, I suppose we Alexinans COULD hasten the merge by doing exactly what the nay-sayers keep saying: "make a character on Nao and shut the hell up!" That would rapidly drop Alexina's activity and force a final merge that much sooner! Hm?
  • meiydameiyda
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    please DO NOT merge them. alexina players dont wanna deal with the toxic nao atmosphere, and during previous mergers, many players quit due to the mergers. not to mention, as stated by others, if they do consider a merger, they should in game bugel about a poll to determine if the vast majority of players actually want it(which, lets be real, isnt very likely to be begin with).
    Greta
  • HelsaHelsa
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    As things stand at the moment, Nexon will avoid merging but if they must they will. On the other hand if they can make the necessary changes to address the issues stemming from the last one, then they can. It would be best for everyone if they did this so that a merge can be accomplished smoothly rather than forced upon everyone by circumstance and with the issues unresolved. They went through a merge already. They saw the problems that occurred; fix them. If they had to save Tarlach, Ruairi, and Mari then one day they're gonna have to save Alexina. Wouldn't it be better if they could prepare for that?
    Negumiko
  • PlatinaKokiPlatinaKoki
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    edited March 15
    Cho wrote: »
    Please don't. Poll accounts with characters over a certain level like 10,000 made before a certain date like 2019 if they think there should a merge or something like that. Or figure out a solution against name sniping and pet names because the Mari/Tarlach/Ruairi merge was awful.

    People are still are still having conversations by bugle and pet names still can't be changed yet.

    I swear, whoever thought it was a bright idea to put premium world bugles in those gacha a few ones back should be fired.

    Out of a cannon.
    meiyda wrote: »
    please DO NOT merge them. alexina players dont wanna deal with the toxic nao atmosphere, and during previous mergers, many players quit due to the mergers. not to mention, as stated by others, if they do consider a merger, they should in game bugel about a poll to determine if the vast majority of players actually want it(which, lets be real, isnt very likely to be begin with).

    Pot calling kettle, pot calling kettle.

    I remember when Sabina said Alexina was the most toxic.

    One of the few times she was right.
  • AlmostNotsuperAlmostNotsuper
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    please DO NOT merge them.

    Hiya Plati o/