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Add an option to delete yourself from friendslists
It's hard to move on from an old name when name-hoarders never remove you from their friendslists when you delete them from your friendslist.
If not in-game, then as a security option on the Mabinogi webpage.
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PS. I won a while ago and already have what I wanted. Being very aggressive with your diplomacy and choice of words is very effective as long as it's unpunishably true.
You can keep this topic up if you want but I really don't care about contributing to others' futures. And shut down the fool below for pretending that their motive isn't to stalk and harass people.
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If I want to keep track of you as you shift identities, then I should have that liberty to do so. Whatever your reasons, I like being able to keep tabs on scammers, liars, sociopaths, and manipulators trying to escape consequence from things they've done to people.
If a person has removed you from their List, the game keeps that person in perpetual "Offline Mode" status, buried in your list forever among the other forgotten ones. With me, a person that stays offline for a certain amount of time basically goes unnoticed and forgotten; this is made more evident when they've name changed because I don't care much for stalking everyone on my list to find out who is who.
But, no. I don't want other people having control over my Friends list or Blacklist. I use it as a log of sorts. This idea also fails simply because of the blacklist. The blacklist still keeps track of you and your idea would require removal of yourself from blacklists as well, which I'm sure neither of us wants to have happen simply because your target name changed.
And for when you want to leave a clan who goes after an individual's friends and burn all of their bridges through their name because they don't like that you 'sometimes hang out' with the person they had clan beef with; So you want to disappear and not have that potentially done to you as retaliation for leaving.
And a way to purge away people who add you but then just permanently disappear on channel 1 and will never interact ever. I would rather not be on their friendslists. It's a security hole for the same reason: manipulative sociopaths with alt accounts trying to track channel changes while pretending they were the victim to their supporting clique. It doesn't even have to be for that reason, some people just don't like the loneliness brought on by people who literally collect names but don't actually say hi to anybody after the first conversation leading up to the add. I'd rather my name disappear from their friendslists when I unfriend them so that they don't get the privilege of saying they have a lot of """"friends""""
Losing gold or an item is not as important as these droves of people who just want to get away from a falling-out or even actual type 2 harassment from people like you pretending to have saintly reasons and also just because 'individually slanderous clan member #43' 'wanted to' in their attempt to do disproportionate retribution limb-for-limb, finger-for-finger over whatever minor slight sets them off.
It's in my seven years of playing when I say: Mabinogi .... isn't... known for its high mental maturity among the 30+ year olds who play it.
They would never do that, too much effort.
Even if there is a bunch of bleep made up about you? I think there are special circumstances warranting this. It's impossible to take on a group of people let alone a community AND retain your account without having to start all over. When I changed my name, it was pointless because of this very problem here. The group that was out to get me updated everyone about my new name. Hell even the freaking official discord staff knew which shows you how insidious this community is. This was back when I used to be a goody two shoes.
Toxic as bleep.
To Kouyioue:
Delete the people who are forever "offline." But, other people should not have control over other peoples' friends lists. I stand firmly by that and I will not budge, because I understand where this leads. Be proactive and start the conversation or be more conservative with how/why you add people, or just don't add random nobodies named "Steponmedaddy." That is not and should not be your right nor duty to police what other people do with their friends lists.
I understand your frustrations and I am not minimizing your concerns and I can totally relate to your problems. But, you cannot justify encroaching upon how other people manage their friends lists, because some things some people do sometimes personally make you feel bad. If you don't want to socialize with them, then don't. You can even hide yourself in offline mode and just talk via discord. There's ways to do this without turning towards authoritarian control over how people interact with each other.
I wholeheartedly agree. But, I don't see much point in us giving them this much power over us; you can't hide forever and people have many different ways of finding you. All you can do is block, ignore, humiliate, expose, avoid, or confront. Don't feed into the nonsense, stand up for yourself, and move on as best you can. If you friends are saying that someone's trying to contact you, tell them to just ignore it. If someone notes you, just don't read it. If someone is stalking you, go elsewhere. Keep your friends list maintained and regularly delete people whom you do not interact with.
To Crimson:
100%, Crimson. I'm not immune to rumors, either. People stalk and lie on me all the time in this game, for reasons even they can't explain. Some people are just hateful.
But, Crimson, we're not alone and we don't have to be. We're all here talking about this together and making it known that these issues exist. But, what you're saying actually proves my point: you can't run, because even the Staff don't care and sometimes support it (and possibility even assist it by providing information). They'll always know, some way. Let's say you get that ability to remove yourself from their list. They can still figure you out by your clothing scheme, color scheme, personality, locked-items, remembering key weapons you used, etc. For example, I was able to figure out Baiyu's many name changes just by picking up on typing patterns and his knowledge about content, completely unaware of who he was at first. You can't hide. You either confront or you ignore. Don't give them the power over you to control you.
Oh don't worry, I've concluded long ago that some of these individuals are afflicted with inferiority complexes and ocd. When identified avoid like the plague and don't give them any power, they think they are integral parts of the community but in reality that's inconsequential to the rest of existence.
<sarcasm>What are you saying? That at the end of the day, this game and these forums don't really matter? I thought they were EVERYTHING!</sarcasm> You're totally right, Crimalicious. None of this really matters to me that much either. Take a final server merge, for example, if the game shuts down, before that happens, it's not like I'll go lay down on the railroad tracks. Since I've pumped hundreds of dollars into the Webshop, the only thing that could be said that I care about is my main on Alexina and, I am fully cognisant that, that is based on the fallacy of sunken cost.
I'm sure I have pumped 1000's but that's no pissing contest to be proud of. I'll just continue to support and enjoy the game as long as possible. All while avoiding things that I used to think mattered. Inconsequential people are inconsequential.