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Do Mods/GM's care about the situation of bots?
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P.S. They'll sugarcoat it when bothered. Uncompromisingly, the answer is no.
But it's not necessary to nerf it if they just ban the cheaters. People know who the botters are. People know which player is publicly bragging about earning 30mil per day multiclienting Conflict bots. If you hang around long enough at Taill altar on a less-crowded channel, you might catch a glimpse of a pro followed by three noob alts in NPC-shop clothing, popping in and out of the mission like clockwork. We're just dancing around saying their names because it's harassment according to forum rules.
If Nexon cared enough to moderate their game as much as they moderate their forums, they'd have been banned a long time ago.
You know, yeah I really agree with you when you say that people find it idea of bans distasteful and yeah it can very well come down to a witch hunt. But I've seen people brag about how rich they became from botting conflict, like obviously there's solid evidence there, but in other cases there may not be. But considering that people might be clicking in the same area and moving in the same spots over and over again, run after run, you may think that perhaps there's something going on here, the timing at which they do things are completely perfect.
Also, another problem we might run into here is that, yeah it looks seriously shady but sometimes, legit players who might be needing some space or for whatever reasons could be doing this.
As some people have stated above, the wrong people could be banned for just transferring money to a different account, even if it looks suspicious, there is no greater evidence than when the actual person claims that they bot conflict and the flawless actions and movements characters do.
But really in regarding this idea of "doing something about the botters", I have sent in a ticket regarding this and I know several others have done so too, but why is it that this is so hard to take down? I really wish a GM would be able to answer such a question, like really, all they need to do it sit around at tail altar (as I've said over and over again) and if they see someone repeating their movements with what seems like 3 other alts, then what stops them from banning them?
It makes me feel like perhaps Nexon America might somehow be involved with all the gold sales, there was once a scandal on Runescape about something like this. Mods got involved with selling and generating of gold from what I remember, and obviously that was a completely crap thing to do. But seriously, go to tail altar in Alexina, any channels, look. It's not such a difficult task, or perhaps it is, which is why I want some sort of response to this topic.
Even some sort of justification on their half, I would be happy enough to take that as a result and hopefully get them moving to respond.
If the gold was being traded from a well-powered and lower leveled account (the bots) to a more geared up account (main) and that gold came from Conflict, then there's something up. I don't think normal players would be regularly withdrawing millions upon millions of gold from their external storage mules at regularly timed intervals.
Well, I don't think it helps that there's a guild stone called "personal bank" right at the Stonehenge.
Completely understand where you're coming from, but as I said before, it could be just one of those really rare cases where something like that might actually happen, odds of something shady like that happening is rare but for the sake of the few innocent who might do this, we need to be careful.
Well, apparently with the ticket I've sent into Nexon, they've told me that there ARE GMs who patrol mabi in game. But for some reason they don't see the one pro and three noobs entering with very consistent timing. And I think it's more come to the point where people aren't afraid to admit that they are using mods/botting in public in more cases now because there is no GM presence in the game.
They have never been scared of admitting it. What are you talking about? Everyone has been open about modding since g2 when lemu faucet was around. Hell, it was a thing before even that. You new kids are so funny.
I never saw people say they use mods while standing about in Dunby on the market channel until a year or two ago. There was a time when they were afraid, albeit that time was quite a few years ago.
We cannot let our fear of incriminating innocents from enforcing the rules in any circumstance. Especially in a virtual world. A permanent ban is not a death sentence. You can restore a banned account in some cases, especially in wrongful bans. It will probably be difficult, but I think the risk is well worth it if done well.
(Note: I think Nexon may be more lenient and understanding than companies like Aeria, which will ban your account due to a "suspicious" lack of money flow after the first purchase.)
I'm glad that you have nothing positive to contribute to this argument other than the fact that you're saying that EVERYONE mods. Well, let me tell you something, not everyone does so. And even before spiraling into comments of personal attack, I know the current state of the game. I've been playing for awhile and I know that mods have been around for many years. So before you go around, generalizing, please, think before you post.
This. Is this really needed in this game...? Like, so much gold being sold and bought, this game is becoming just a massive profit making game for those botters.
And I agree with what Bliss says about bans, perhaps it will be better off for the sake of the whole to snuff out suspicious activity seeing as most of the activity isn't normal.
or just lower the amount of gold u get after
Because gms only log in to mail tickets, they dont actually monitor the game, and i dont blame the gms, i blame the fact their allowed to do this and hold the title of a gm, they should separate the job to ticketmasters and game masters...
im not good at spelling so i wouldn't be good at answering tickets...(if i was a gm), but i also wouldn't hide and never appear in game except to do that either...
its weird, out of all the jobs listed, gms seems the least thing they need.... yet no one seems to be assisting the games from "in the games"...
the only thing i know is gms are always invisible and thats a option by the gm... and even if you dont like being seen, it does somewhat show you care.
Once cheaters realize they can't just make a new account or activate a VPN to play, they'd clean up their act real fast.
BOOOOOOO!
Oh my... look like someone didn't read Nexon's Code of Conduct and you even said that modding/hacking are allowed when it was stated that it isn't in the CoC.
Based on his previous response, he is mocking the existence of a major rule in Massive Multipayers that is poorly enforced in Mabinogi it may as well not even be in the terms of service. Perhaps the only way an MMORPG can greatly negate bots, beside actual payments upfront to play the game, would be to actively monitor the game, especially in populous places where bots go, which would greatly kill their advertising power by limiting exposure.