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Closed More Balanced Elves?
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I still think reforged Bohemian seems to be the better path, but a nicely equipped chain main set could be very good as well. I just doubt it's as good as a 20k+ cumulative reforged and enchanted elf archer main.
I really have no problem with elves being railroaded into something/niche combat role, my problem was when we literally sucked at everything.
And Letus is trying to make a Martial Artist Archer with one...that whole thing really ruins the combo flow....
otherwise...stillhateelves
lousy..knife eared...Vulcan Cosplayers...
its irking that cash shop items are needed to rng your way up there, even if you but it off directly with already good stats its still irking knowing that someone had to in order to roll good stats
i think fixing that infamous elf lag issue could make elf archery significantly more smooth like it used to, now a days (or years at this point) it feels so clunky and uncomfortable.
also idk if it has fixed yet but i highly dount they have, remove that random purple spot that elves have moving around in their faces.
Aww...but that roaming spot reminds Letus of Igor from "Young Frankenstein"
Never said reforges are good or benefit the game, just that archery is not the only skill in the world that requires reforging in the endgame to max out damage output :-)
Magnum and smash are the only ones that give 200% at 20
That's 40% more damage and with the set, it's 60% more damage
I have to play as an archer?
I am doing exceptionally well chaining everything to death.
thats pretty much my point there, reforges has been the excuse for some of the issues found in archery.
No.
If you’re in NA with no lag then maybeeeee.
"no lag"
pick one
Maybe.. but..
Last thing I need to read is someone saying if you don't archer, you can't consider yourself a serious player (combat-wise)
No you don't need to archer to be a good elf "combat-wise".
People think that because they just follow the crowd/overseas servers. They haven't tried to find their own playstyle.
I already said this and I will say it again; If you think archery is good and nothing can be as good as archery, good for you.
Just don't tell people that they can't consider themselves as serious player "combat-wise" because they don't archer.
They have their own play style and you have your own-.. well.. play style.
I said NA WITH no lag, not NA or someone with no lag.
Can’t expect everyone to play the game right (“You’re playing Elf wrong cause you’re not using archer”).
if anyone asks what's the theoretical best way to play mabinogi just give them an empty answer instead of telling them the truth so they can find their way, just say something like "everyone is a winner, let your heart pick for you"
yes that's very useful, did i mention everyone gets a medal? because they do! /milennial
or, yknow, just accept you're not following the META and that following it would yield better results, or prove that what you're doing is the META via math
"they are just using math". Right.
80% of the elves are just following crowds and telling you that you can't play elf as a mage/chain++, you have to archer else you aren't playing the game as an elf "right". Lets be clear about that. Nor do you have to be a special snowflake just because you aren't interested in archery/lag too much.
I already said if you want to archer, good for you.
Mabinogi isn't real life (fyi)
The funny part here is, I use a skill that was definitely not the meta before (in phantasm) and now everyone is calling it meta, even though most said that it was useless there. Why? because instead of actually trying it yourself before talking bs, you just went ahead and followed everyone else.
Know what that tells me? try before you judge.
Back on topic though,,
Yes, archery does need a lot of investment to be useful compared to most classes (e.g. magic/chain/combat etc)
Rather be unique and enjoy the game than follow someone just because they said “this” is good and criticise your game play because you’re playing the game differently.
Most comments I’ve seen relating to elves are that “elves don’t need revamp because archery is already op” or something relating to archery only.
There is no proper way to play this game (Kinda like what you said) and you can’t insult/call them noobs just because they like to play their race (elves) differently than some player(s) that says “ you must be an archer if you consider yourself a serious player combat-wise”.
Some wants elves to be better at Magic too and not see these updates that buffs elves in archery only.
@Kaga I guess you were not a serious player before phantasm came out since you use Blaze for several years ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
if said alternative isn't better then why are we still arguing this, you chose the lesser option because its fun to you and thats nice but if somebody asks which is the better way why not answer them the truth instead of going circles around it
I did find a better alternative that is as good, if not better than cs/mag spam.
Which is why I am saying that there is no such things as only "one meta".
But you still don't see me shove it on peoples faces and telling them that they aren't playing elf right just because they don't follow what I see as meta..just saying.
Oh you aren't "following" anything? I guess we both are special snowflakes
You are ignoring everything else I was saying.. like how you don't need to go for archery to be good combat-wise.
At this point I feel like you are just trying to start -removed-.
Whatever floats your boat.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=meta
“ A term used in mmo meaning the Most Effective Tactic Available.”
So no one on Discord are mentioning that using Blaze on Phantasm is better than using archery?
Kaga is right, he found a better alternative and using Blaze in Phantasm on the first day it came out before people who watched JP solo Phantasm said it’s the “Most Effective Tactic Available”.
But this isn’t only about Phantasm, Blaze is useful everywhere else.
So before “you don’t think he understand what meta means”, read what he said.