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Dan3 magnum

OwntrolfOwntrolf
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edited June 7, 2018 in General Chat
rng on rng on rng with racism sprinkles on top

Oh you got knocked down? you fail

Spawn was bad? you fail

Didnt crit? you fail

You missed at 99%? you fail

Where do i go to shoot the person who came up with the idea for dan3 magnum

Goblin archers literally have better accuracy than you


Just give extra points for damage and or give everyone 0.5 magnum with Vision of Ladeca
  1. you fail29 votes
    1. ok
       21% (6 votes)
    2. you fail
       79% (23 votes)

Comments

  • HellkaizerHellkaizer
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    Out of all the dan tests I've done Mag is the only one that I feel is BS. It relies way too heavily on RNG to be a test of skill. Sure you can lower mob HP with crash shot, you can get good spawns etc but none of that matters if you don't crit. Why do crits even give a bonus, yes I'm very skilled from critting.
    Blissfulkill
  • GTCvActiumGTCvActium
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    I exploited mag's minor AoE abilities to get through mine. Note that I'm an east coast player so unless you're EU (I believe its downright impossible for EU players to do this) its very much possible to get this done.
  • TNinjaTNinja
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    GTCvActium wrote: »
    I exploited mag's minor AoE abilities to get through mine. Note that I'm an east coast player so unless you're EU (I believe its downright impossible for EU players to do this) its very much possible to get this done.

    Just because it's possible doens't mean it's a good design, though.


    This is why Healing is also stupidly designed. It's like the implementation of these mastery tests is a single proof that the entire development team are undereducated numbnuts. It's that bad.
    ImaizumiBlissfulkillDaktaroTheNyanCat
  • GretaGreta
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    edited June 6, 2018
    Owntrolf wrote: »
    rng on rng on rng with racism sprinkles on top

    Oh you got knocked down? you fail

    Spawn was bad? you fail

    Didnt crit? you fail

    You missed at 99%? you fail

    Where do i go to shoot the person who came up with the idea for dan3 magnum

    Goblin archers literally have better accuracy than you


    Just give extra points for damage and or give everyone 0.5 magnum with Vision of Ladeca

    I think you don't know the definition of racism.

    Also the text which i bolded.
    This is messed up. Are you ok?

    Are you seriously threatening to shoot a guy who created Magnum Dan Test? You also seem to call the test "racist" for some illogical reason. Also thread title sounds inappropriate too.

    You seem to not know your place, i assume.
  • TrythisTrythis
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    edited June 6, 2018
    @Owntrolf well these Dan tests were made with the thought of Latency to cover an area of KR not the United States, much less places outside of NA

    Speaking of that, what do you mean of being racist??? That it's racist elves have a slightly better time with the test and/or because it's harder for people in EU, South America or Oceania to do Dan's than Americans?
  • noobodyzxznoobodyzxz
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    Greta wrote: »
    Owntrolf wrote: »
    rng on rng on rng with racism sprinkles on top

    Oh you got knocked down? you fail

    Spawn was bad? you fail

    Didnt crit? you fail

    You missed at 99%? you fail

    Where do i go to shoot the person who came up with the idea for dan3 magnum

    Goblin archers literally have better accuracy than you


    Just give extra points for damage and or give everyone 0.5 magnum with Vision of Ladeca

    I think you don't know the definition of racism.

    Also the text which i bolded.
    This is messed up. Are you ok?

    Are you seriously threatening to shoot a guy who created Magnum Dan Test? You also seem to call the test "racist" for some illogical reason. Also thread title sounds inappropriate too.

    You seem to not know your place, i assume.
    Trythis wrote: »
    @Owntrolf well these Dan tests were made with the thought of Latency to cover an area of KR not the United States, much less places outside of NA

    Speaking of that, what do you mean of being racist??? That it's racist elves have a slightly better time with the test and/or because it's harder for people in EU, South America or Oceania to do Dan's than Americans?

    I think what he or she meant of racist is that
    "Goblin archers literally have better accuracy"
    (not sure tho better let him/her confirm this)
  • TrythisTrythis
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    edited June 6, 2018
    @nobodyzxz there are numerous enemy NPCs who have more advantages than players, like cessairs from nemeton with FH that has no cool down, and the abundant creatures that have access of chain casting for any magical skill while we only have chain casting upgrades for wands and it's only for bolts and snapcast but not as good as monster chain casting, can't forget about monster LD either or dragonfireball.

    My point is they're not better because of """"racism"""". They're better because their AI isn't smarter than us, so they need a handicap. IF they did mean the goblin thing, then thier racist accusation claim means less than elves or people in farther regoins and how they deal with the Mag Dan test as opposed to different parties.
  • ImaizumiImaizumi
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    I assumed they were talking about Elves having better Mag CD than Humans when they said racist.
  • Gaby5011Gaby5011
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    Recently got healing dan 3. That test was BS as well.
  • SiodhanSiodhan
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    Just give it up. Everyone who's miraculously/due to latency managed to do it will adamantly deny that it needs change and they're not even gonna bother changing it even if everyone rallied for a valid point.
    ImaizumiSai
  • EncrovianEncrovian
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    It took me about 7 hours to finish 2 dan tests? It's a pain in the butt tbh. :U I understand how u feel, for mag 3 dan test was what literally made me rage. All based on placement + crits. RIP
  • CrimsọnCrimsọn
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    edited June 6, 2018
    Greta wrote: »
    Owntrolf wrote: »
    rng on rng on rng with racism sprinkles on top

    Oh you got knocked down? you fail

    Spawn was bad? you fail

    Didnt crit? you fail

    You missed at 99%? you fail

    Where do i go to shoot the person who came up with the idea for dan3 magnum

    Goblin archers literally have better accuracy than you


    Just give extra points for damage and or give everyone 0.5 magnum with Vision of Ladeca

    I think you don't know the definition of racism.

    Also the text which i bolded.
    This is messed up. Are you ok?

    Are you seriously threatening to shoot a guy who created Magnum Dan Test? You also seem to call the test "racist" for some illogical reason. Also thread title sounds inappropriate too.

    You seem to not know your place, i assume.

    Didn't you know the game can sense your skin color? ;)
  • TNinjaTNinja
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    Gaea wrote: »
    Greta wrote: »
    Owntrolf wrote: »
    rng on rng on rng with racism sprinkles on top

    Oh you got knocked down? you fail

    Spawn was bad? you fail

    Didnt crit? you fail

    You missed at 99%? you fail

    Where do i go to shoot the person who came up with the idea for dan3 magnum

    Goblin archers literally have better accuracy than you


    Just give extra points for damage and or give everyone 0.5 magnum with Vision of Ladeca

    I think you don't know the definition of racism.

    Also the text which i bolded.
    This is messed up. Are you ok?

    Are you seriously threatening to shoot a guy who created Magnum Dan Test? You also seem to call the test "racist" for some illogical reason. Also thread title sounds inappropriate too.

    You seem to not know your place, i assume.

    Didn't you know the game can sense your skin color? ;)

    There's no black elves, so clearly devCAT is racist. :v
  • RheyRhey
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    I stop @ Dan 1 for this reason. 2 much headache when Rng is needed to get higher dan ranks is just too much BS 4 me to care.
  • MaiaMaia
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    Humans and Elves should have different dan tests. Same goes for giants on applicable tests. It's dumb that they make the skills function better for certain races but give the same expectations
  • PanPan
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    The fact that humans can still achieve dan 3 shows that elves and humans are no different from each other.
  • GretaGreta
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    edited June 8, 2018
    Pan wrote: »
    The fact that humans can still achieve dan 3 shows that elves and humans are no different from each other.

    Welcome back :trollface:

    About that... Humans can achieve Dan 3, but it doesn't prove the fact that it takes longer/harder for them to succeed. Elves are still better at Archery in my perspective. Comparing Elves and Humans like that... Gives me an impression like claiming that 150 cm person is no different than a 190 cm person, who can reach stuff from way higher places than others who are way shorter. Shorter people need help/work-around to reach something that's too high for them. Just my thoughts.
    Nexon still needs to nerf some Dan Tests anyway. I have given up doing them after realizing how absurd RNG is Defense/Counterattack Dans. Also Magic Dans make me cringe too. How i'm supposed to cast Thunder/Fireball quickly enough to eliminate Golem before he starts to insta aggro me?
  • BlissfulkillBlissfulkill
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    Pan wrote: »
    The fact that humans can still achieve dan 3 shows that elves and humans are no different from each other.

    Elves have a 0.5 Cooldown for Magnum, while humans have 1.5 seconds. That is an incredibly large difference. They may be able to achieve the same achievements, but to state that the equality of outcome can only be precipitated by overly similar circumstances?

    That is illogical. Do you even use Archery?
    GretaTheNyanCatImaizumi
  • MaiaMaia
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    edited June 8, 2018
    Likely just a loaded statement aimed to troll.
    GretaBlissfulkill
  • GretaGreta
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    edited June 8, 2018
    Maia wrote: »
    Likely just a loaded statement aimed to troll.

    Yeah, this guy named "Pan" likes to troll and bait people in these forums. Purposely says something that might trigger others and several times said things that is against rules. This is why i welcomed them back with a troll face emote :D