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Thoughts On G21? (Content And Story)
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Ya'know, the same unit that Shuan is a member of.
And what was with that one part where Llywelyn said that his "primary function is defensive" and then adds that it's more like he's "functioning defensively for the moment".
This wasn't explained in part 1 was it?
That apparently he wasn't always a Shield of Trust user?
From back in G19, we learned that the Knights each only control 1 form of divine skill, either warding, binding, or smiting type, but I can't remember it being touched upon being able to change their form of skill. (which is why it was important that the Milletian could use all 3 at once)
So is this the first example of someone apparently being able to change their divine skill's function to another type?
Besides the Elder who was also able to use all 3 forms at once, of course.
No no, i got good one for Talvish:
-Talvish rejects your feelings by saying that you are more like a little sister/brother to them and just laughs at you, leaving you standing there like a dummy. xD
He was reassigned at the last minute, from the intelligence unit to the exploration unit, concerning his intuitions and various other divine anomalies. They are keeping us in the dark for now.
That was the most beautiful thing I read. I love the descriptions you gave each of them. All of the knights are fantastic and they all would make great partners in life regardless of your orientation.
I too would enjoy playing this Dating Sim.
Oh god these bad endings, I love them. I also like what someone said about Talvish saying you are more of a little sister/brother to him. I can see that. He seems like the older brother type, loves to tease you but in the end means well.
Okay that is amazing, best response someone could give me ever.
What's less than zero, though?
imo you can like or dislike any character for subjective reasons but I'm a bit tired of people labeling characters as 'objectively bad' or at least implying it by saying "x has only y going for them and only exists for fanboys/fangirls)" like everyone will have their own reasons for liking or disliking a character and dang I'll be the one to tell you right now you are allowed to hate a character without anyone making you feel bad about hating that character but can you maybe do the people who like that character the same courtesy? I like Altam despite he flaws and god he certainly has a lot of them but don't tell me the only reason that I or anyone else who likes him is "just for his looks" or "just to appeal to fangirls" like come on and get over yourself. You can have your opinions and voice them but those kinds of 'objective' comments are really rude.
Anyway I actually like all the knights, Talvish is the best written knight imo despite not being my favorite (he's the most complex and least trope-y). He genuinely cares about the Milletian and seems to really do anything in his power to protect them. His way of going about things can be a little sketchy but I think his personality is very "the end justifies the means" and will bend the rules if he knows it is for the greater good.
Llywelyn is amusing and great and balances Altam out well and puts him in his place which I think he deserves since I'm pretty sure he needs to learn that people (ie the Milletian) and not infallible and can fail and make mistake just like anyone else. Plus his snark and sarcasm is welcome in the group dynamic.
Avelin is a great voice of reason and I like how we finally got to see the parts that makes her vulnerable, it made her a more relatable character. Showing that even the people who pretend to be strong and put together can still have insecurities.
Pihne is sweet and gentle and a group of hard-knock knights needs someone like that once in a while to soften the atmosphere. She dealt with a lot of very difficult things, as have pretty much all the knights from the looks of it, but she overcame it and left as a stronger person. I think her presence is both comforting to Caswyn and to Avelin, which helps the flow of the group.
Caswyn is more serious in this gen, wearing his armor properly and not complaining about everything. He's shown character development from G20 which is really cool!! That's good continuity! Though from the post-part 1 Caswyn laying around Avalon camp, he's still got a bit of his old self inside, which is welcome, since he's a big doof.
Lastly, Altam is definitely overenthusiastic and unprofessional. But throughout this story he's slowly growing in maturity and strength, overcoming demons and looking to the Milletian for inspiration. Yes, he comes on strong. Yes, he can get in the way of things but the other knights, even Avelin, care deeply for him because they know he means well and want to see him shine and grow, because they understand the potential he has, and with the help of everyone, Altam will become the hero that he dreams of being. It's a clumsy ride to that point, but he'll get there. He's NOT useless and he has just as good of a reason to be there as anyone else. He's happy-go-lucky and excitable, but he certainly looks like deep down he hates (or hated) himself a lot. His overwhelming energy and positivity is most likely a cover for that, the same way Pihne covered up her scars in G20 with a fake smile. What matters is that that fake smile eventually turned into a real one by the end, and I think the same will happen for Altam.
I can understand why anyone would find Altam, or any of the other knights annoying and unlikable because it's a matter of personal taste and that's totally fine.
However, in the end, that's all it is. Subjective taste. Hate any character. Like any character. What does it matter. Stop putting down other people for who they like and dislike. You aren't better than them just because you don't "fall into the mass crowd of fangirls/boys who worship Altam". You're on a pretty high horse for acting that way.
Getting that of the way, I agree with you there @Blankeye It is one thing to hold an opinion, but another to make claims about the fanbase. WHILE I WOULD CAUTION against taking generalities literally, due to the fact that exceptions always exist in some form, it is something I find highly inappropriate.
To recapitulate, not everything stated generally is meant to be applied unanimously, but to point to a seeming conspicuous trend. Insult the work and not the fanbase, and opinions are stated as they are facts.
Oh I definitely understand that and agree that people usually present their subjective thoughts as objective, and that in itself is obvious and fine, but I'm just tired of people passive-aggressively insulting all fans of a characters by implying that the only reason they have for liking said character is superficial and redundant. It's a bit exhausting to see people act like they're better than other people just because they don't like that one character that everyone else does. We're all just a bunch of people playing an mmo and loving/hating on fictional characters that don't mean much in the grand scheme of things and no one should be put down for their opinions on fictional people.
Oh the irony...
A character also can be objectively bad, while none of the knights are we do have some in the saga stories.
Dunno what's ironic about it. Hate a fictional character and it's fine because they don't exist and it doesn't matter. Just don't be a jerk to the people who do like that character. That's all I'm saying. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It doesn't take a lot of effort to be respectful to people even if they disagree with you. I don't go around trash talking people who hate Altam, but I won't go around tolerating people who trash talk the people who DO like him.
And while I'm not a fan for like 50% of the Saga characters, I guarantee someone out there probably likes the ones that are 'poorly written' (and I agree, a bunch are definitely poorly written), and those people should also be allowed to like those characters without being made to feel bad about it. :v
All I'm saying is
"[character] is stupid" = fine
"The fans of that character are stupid" = not fine.
Can't you people see that Shaun is the real husbando?
Liar.
Shuan's the real...
That April Fools Event is still amazing.
You got me there.
*raises hand*
I actually love Merlin and 100% support him. Treasure Hunter I also want to learn more about. Heck, I'd love to learn about and hear more about the Aces stories to be honest. It was nice seeing them in the chainblade quest line and I get really excited everytime I see them.
Merlin and TH are my fave saga characters and I was so happy to see Merlin in G21 so I am ALL FOR THIS #giveMerlinandTHmorescreentime