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even though I do not main an elf, I still feel that they are left in the dust by human and giants in pretty much every area, besides running speed.
I'll bring up my two main suggestions for helping balance out elves.
1: Two new bows made out of Shylien, a lower tier bow that doubles as a "Trinity" Grade Staff, damage wise, about par with a LLB with a Magic Attack Stat as a crafted bonus. A Higher tier bow that doubles as a "Hermit" Grade Staff, with around HLB or something similar for damage, with Lv 1 Pierce by default. Making both of them Elf Only would work out well as a buff for elves.
2: Add Rapiers to the Lance Weapons Pool, allowing them to be used with Lance Skills. Rapiers, throughout history, have been thrusting weapons. They don't need to be so broken that they get Bash and Rage as well, but giving them a natural pierce level and allowing them to use reduced range and damage Lance skills, will give Elves more melee options.
2b: Make a Shylien Mana Rapier. Literally a Rapier with the same magic casting properties as a Shylien Mana Knuckle. If Merlin can do this to a set of knuckles, why can't elves do the same to a hilt guard on a rapier?
3: Expand on Elf-Friendly Heavy Armor. There are maybe 2-3 sets of actual Heavy Armor that elves can wear. I say this gets expanded on for non-archer elves. Also swapping the dex penalty in heavy armor with elves and giants. It makes no sense that Giants start with -30% and end at -10% while elves are shafted with a flat -50%
As far as the hide ability, darker skin or changes to magic missile or mirage missile, I don't know enough about those skills to make any kind of claim
This has devolved from a request on how to beat Dan Tests to just a back and forth argument over whether or not its a good or bad idea to disable optional services windows has on by default, between Hardmuscle, who I feel has more than made his point. and Blortard who is so set in his ways, it makes teaching a 70 year old woman how to use a computer seem do-able.
If you're going to spout the same BS about these links being untrustworthy, then you are spitting in the faces of 10+ years of Mabi users who have discovered these things and made them public knowledge.
I'm gonna have to argue that Humans outclass Elves as Archers, which is very counter-productive for a race that has been stereo-typed into being bow-loving snipers who never miss thanks to Lord of the Rings.
Elves get a potential second shot with ranged normal attacks, yes. Elves can use all archery skills from horseback, alright fine. Elves have longer load times on every skill they share with humans in the Archery Pool. This makes Humans FASTER with almost every archery skill they share.
How do I know this as a human main?
Archery is one of about 8 talents I've spent the last 4-5 months grinding out to rank 1 or Master in every skill for. I have also helped an elf friend, who was struggling with Archery, do exactly this as well.
The biggest offenders of this are Crash, Support and Urgent Shot, however, as an archery skill, some of Urgent Shot's requirements are complete BS unless you live on the same city block as the server and have a direct T1 land-line to the building.
Crash Shot differs between the two races the least, with about a half-second load time as difference.
Urgent Shot is about the same, however, if I remember right, its cooldown is longer instead
Support Shot is the worst offender of this. Elves have Double the Cooldown across all ranks. Humans at Rank 1, a whopping 0.5 CD. Elves. a full 1.0 second CD. And it gets worse, the lower your rank is.
I do not know what kind of racial differences exist between Human and elves for Magnum and Spider Shot, as my friend already had Magnum done, and did not care about Spider Shot.
Yes, elves can aim faster with special race skills, yes, elves can hit just a little harder as they get about 100 more dex than humans. But Humans can shoot faster in the end, as their skills are built around rapid attacks and are ready to be used again, quicker.
One critical suggestion is to either balance the load/cooldown times for shared skills, there's no reason that these three skills need to separate the races like that.
As for an upgrade to Elves.
How about giving them an Elf-Only bow that doubles as a Staff? A low-grade one that has the effects of a Trinity Staff, needing to be charged to used Int Spells, and a higher grade one that acts like a Hermit Staff.
Another option is to add Rapiers to the list of weapons able to use Lance Skills, giving Elves the lancer talent so we can end that QQ thread once and for all. And while we're at it on that front, let the giant's atlatl use Archery skills at slightly reduced damages, ending THAT QQ thread too.
This system makes me wish I got all my dan levels BEFORE this stupid update. >:(
No you don't.
The old system REQUIRED you do this with multiple people, of which, half or less than half of every batch will pass, the others WILL FAIL. The old system required it be done on channel 5. The old system restricted each test to days divisible by 5. (the 5th, 10th, 15th etc.)
All I am seeing, is complaints about how long it takes. a whole 24 hours with the current system. I'll take that over the 120 HOURS or FIVE DAYS between tests, in addition to being restricted to one channel, and possibly to only a 3-4 hour window on those days. I like the new system over the old one, I actually tried the old one. It was terrible.
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