Mizumie

I don't like it, but like you mentioned, I don't really think its a -major- thing if they only use it for skills. But I do think it sets a terrible precedent. A lot of people see that botters can do what they want, so they jump on the bandwagon, and then some of those people get overconfident and start experimenting with hacks, and before we know it, the game is just an unstable mess.

Why even have rules if we don't enforce them?

My god, seems like this thread will just encourage players to bot more instead of scaring them away. People are freakin defending them just because training requirements are too difficult and there are training seals/potions that help legit players too... Then bravo for lazy botters that get profit for doing nothing ans join them if you think it's fine.

If nexon reconsidered training requirements then maybe less people would bot. Perhaps this is a cry for change more than it is a cry for illicit action to be passible.

That could be fair. I remember when I was working at getting magic artisan. I'd spend hours each day, for weeks, especially towards the end. I know grinding can be extremely frustrating and tedious at times, and with the dwindling player base, change is probably needed, but I think that might be an issue for a different thread to avoid derailing this one.

How is this negatively impacting your life and game play? Are you going to feel your account is at risk? Are you going to think something is going to happen to you? How is this causing you harm in your mabi life?

I trained all my skills without the use of macro's and bots and I wouldn't even know how to set one up or use one so I don't care honestly, I like training my skills. if people want to train it like that so what? Yes, it's against TOS but it's not really something important that nexon needs to jump on over other things. Nexon honestly has bigger things to worry about and more important thing to fix than worry about someone using a macro to train their skills. It not a serious issues as people are making it out to be.

I don't like it, but like you mentioned, I don't really think its a -major- thing if they only use it for skills. But I do think it sets a terrible precedent. A lot of people see that botters can do what they want, so they jump on the bandwagon, and then some of those people get overconfident and start experimenting with hacks, and before we know it, the game is just an unstable mess.

Why even have rules if we don't enforce them?

It sometimes can be hard to trace what is botting and what is not. For example. When I was training Crisis Escape, I stood in the same spot for hours training it, hardly moved. Only the occasional rock throw to get the raccoons to notice me. To someone who is on the other side of the camp, might think that is botting, when really I was just looking back at my computer every 30-40 seconds (what ever the cool down time was) and hitting my F5 key. I would get worried someone would think I was macroing the skill so every so often I would summon a pet or do something else xD;;
Then again sometimes it is also very easy to tell when someone is botting.

It's really easy to spot botter. Just come and say "Hi". If the guy doesn't respond, just lure bears on him and see if the guy will react to it fast or do something that bots can't do (like summon pets, start to talk, run around), because bots have monotonic actions and will never change it too sudden like legit player. If the guy still doesn't react to the bears you lured, congrats, you found a botter.

Sometimes it can be hard to find out if someone is actually botting. But when people admit to it and no action is taken, :C. I have no words.

also that bear thing. :') Please don't do that to anyone who looks too weak to fend them off. //flashbacks to when I was a new player.
But, unfortunately that doesn't provide solid evidence that the player is botting either. Not everyone speaks english, and some players are extremely shy/solonogi, so talking to them might not work either.

How is this negatively impacting your life and game play? Are you going to feel your account is at risk? Are you going to think something is going to happen to you? How is this causing you harm in your mabi life?

I trained all my skills without the use of macro's and bots and I wouldn't even know how to set one up or use one so I don't care honestly, I like training my skills. if people want to train it like that so what? Yes, it's against TOS but it's not really something important that nexon needs to jump on over other things. Nexon honestly has bigger things to worry about and more important thing to fix than worry about someone using a macro to train their skills. It not a serious issues as people are making it out to be.

I don't like it, but like you mentioned, I don't really think its a -major- thing if they only use it for skills. But I do think it sets a terrible precedent. A lot of people see that botters can do what they want, so they jump on the bandwagon, and then some of those people get overconfident and start experimenting with hacks, and before we know it, the game is just an unstable mess.

Why even have rules if we don't enforce them?

I wish Nexon would care about botters more. My boyfriend used to play Runescape and there are hundreds of botters, and they do huge impact in that game. They can get all loot, gear and exp for doing nothing at all, in a week or so. You get banned for botting as soon as possible when admins find out. I know that, because my boyfriend tried to bot there and he did lose like 3 accounts or such since he got caught. It's funny how Mabinogi players here defend botters, that makes me disgusted so bad... Never seen such thing in any other game community.

Except in this game, you can't really bot for gold or gear, and exp is a joke. Just skills o/

You can bot for gold and gear.
KR players used to do it for VHM raids, when it gave 50k/run, which took about 40 seconds or less.

Personally I'm not a fan of botters. They're a big reason that I left a lot of other games, like Tree of Savior, Flyff, and LaTale. Its not much fun to work for thing while others are just AFK, farming for whatever they're there for. I don't see a point in playing a game where players can just get whatever they want without doing anything for it, which is exactly what botting allows.

Mabi doesn't seem to be as plagued by them as the other games I mentioned, but its still annoying to see them.

Nice guide so far! I left you an "Insightful" ~

If you want any help with some future sections, I'd be happy to offer a helping hand. I've been commercing.. ever since I made this account a few years ago xD
You can note or add Mizumie [Tarlach] if you need to.

Can't wait to see how it turns out when you're finished, we need more people commercing!

I really like watching new players run around, discovering everything for the first time. It brings back memories from all those years ago.

Also the "special unit" squads we can get, and Avalon gate, the area they're in. Its a nice place where we can just show up, relax a bit, talk with our units, and even earn some money/items all at the same time.