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TheNyanCat wrote: »
You literally dove in head first to one of the hardest to rank skills in the game and second you were talking to a bot.
LOL
Danievictria wrote: »Not everyone has that mind set thought not everyone can push foreword and work towards something so most new players will leave when it gets too hard for them unfortunately.
But pushing forward and getting strong and skilled enough to face the next challenge is what RPG videogames have been all about since the days of Dragon Warrior/Quest, the first Final Fantasy, and Zelda on the NES. It's a whole genre about patience, persistence, strategy, and perseverance. RPG's aren't meant to just slide you instant gratification and let you get to the highest heights with no trials, tribulations, or grinding. If you can't handle that, RPG's aren't your thing.
Also thunder ice spear and fireball pages can all be gotten from basic Ghost of Partholon tara shadow mission after killing everything in a room sometimes mimic books will spawn the real books can have all the pages of ice spear fireball and thunder and will give you one of the pages at random.
Hm, then that means either the Wiki's info on those items must be incomplete or out of date, or things may have changed since you did these missions, since it says the only Thunder page it says that mission drops is the third one, none of the Fireball pages are found there, and only the first Ice Spear page is found there. Either way, I'll have to check it out myself sometime.
I'm sure if you were able to do a dungeon with 8 people, you can do a dungeon with 4 people. Like I said before, there is no need to go and make things too easy again. It is fine the way it is.
I'm sorry what please re read what you said because it's very faulty logic some one did a dungeon with 8 people means they can do it with 4 um no it doesn't strength in numbers and all that jazz maybe those people found the dungeon too hard with less then 8 people thus they needed 8 to do it just because you can do it with a party of 4 doesn't mean everyone can believe it or not some people don't have all the skills in the game or good armour or weapons or the oh so lovely pets that make things so easy for us most of the time.
Honestly when this dungeon revamp came out i didn't really think much of it but now it must be a pain as a newbie to have to do some of these dungeons for the story quests.
The problem with the dungeon revamp i feel it caters a little too much to mid/endgame players and in doing so makes newer plays feel a little unwelcome (condescending older players don't help much in that regard also but hey oh can't change people) they try to do say barri dungeon get beat near the boss room or at the boss room grind a bit come back and still get stomped ask others for help nope no one wants to so they grind a bit more try again and stomped again then they get disheartened and stop playing i have seen this or at least something like this happen a lot as of late.
Don't assume that a few high level people won't help someone that is low leveled means that all high levels won't help low levels. It doesn't hurt to try something and be able to do it on your own. If you can't do it, then sure ask for help. Most of these new players that join end up quitting no matter what, even after helping them so it ends up feeling pointless to help someone new.
I'm sure if you were able to do a dungeon with 8 people, you can do a dungeon with 4 people. Like I said before, there is no need to go and make things too easy again. It is fine the way it is.
