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Something to remember about Tuning kits
I assume that the musical math dungeon is permanent, so the 2mil+ tuners you see in belvast can actually be obtained for free at any time... Because Music Math requires in reality almost no combat to do, and anyone could do it.
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It's kind of along the same lines as the Music Knowledge/Composition books that you get by filling Exploration Journals. Anyone can do that but the grind for artifacts makes it worth dropping the gold on the finished books for some.
You can make 400k an hour doing conflict spam (slowly) with no crystals. So you can spend at most 5hrs(a lot less if you're using crystals) doing conflict spam or days farming Musical Math. I'd rather just farm 5hrs in conflict especially since it gives a whole slew of other rewards that are nice (upgrade stones, elite passes, enchants, exp). Not to mention I personally enjoy conflict spam a lot more than Musical Math.
I get a much better return on time investment and I have more fun. So for me personally, running Math to get the drop is stupid.
Its all about how you want to spend your time.
For trades, some people just don't want to deal with the hassle of reselling, especially if they're items that are not in demand. It doesn't necessarily mean it's rude, but if people are looking for gold as it is and you're having difficulty selling it, you kinda can't fault them for rejecting a trade.
"then you have the people that arent nice enough to trade items for items, xD even when you offer an item worth more then there's or its equal value .. its amazing how cheap people are ;-;, and yea i could sell things to get money but things dont sell just like that, unless you make them really cheap (which i have before) but then you hardly get the money you need for what you want.. :C just cant win."
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Funny. You admit that you can't sell those items unless you massively underprice them, yet you then dare to call others "cheap" when they refuse to take them at the vastly-inflated value you presume those items to have. The fact is an item only has the value people will actually pay for it, not the value some random people claim (this is why items tend to sit around forever in their shops). As such the real value of an item is the one you know you'd actually be able to sell it for, and the person you're trying to rip-off knows it too. Don't call someone cheap just because they won't let you rip them off, merchants don't owe you things. Just like you don't have forever to spend finding that one misinformed person whom'll pay too much, neither do they (and they furthermore may have morals forbidding them to do so, as not all merchants believe in lying to their customers).
They mean tuner kits I believe as the thread is discussing the pricing of rare drops from the musical math dungeon
1.) Maybe they liked the color of the item/believed the coloring would allow it to sell for more
2.) Like Clovis15 said, as a seller you raise/lower the price based on what people are willing to pay at the time it's selling and what the item is worth to you. If there is a market for a 50k scroll (some get pricey as r1 composing/MK was a big deal and making music takes skill) then I wouldn't necessarily call it cheap. Plenty of people undersell items to get rid of them or because they know/like the customer. Plenty oversell in the vain hope of getting more gold or because the item is worth more to them than the going price. Inflation plays a role as well which may be the case with the black dyes and you can also often find someone selling them for 1-2m too. I respect your opinion but disagree that people are greedy for rejecting a trade deal or selling an item for more than you believe it to be worth. There is often a good deal of price variation if you give it time and look in enough shops/server market posts.
Yea but theres not really enough players in the game for that. not everyone in the game is very psyched about the dungeon.
I was just stating what I had observed, nothing more
Have you considered page collection to make and sell magic books (Fireball, Thunder etc), filling Exploration Journals for the reward books, or taking advantage of the easy money of Samhain? There are many ways to make a decent profit ingame that don't require a perfect internet connection or stellar stats.
Music hardly takes any skill to make anymore because people don't even "make music" anymore.
I swear 99% just rip midis and then post them into game. So in other words you're justifying that its ok to take someone elses work and sell it for an outrageous price.
Not to mention most music people are 'making" could have come from someone on one of the various mabi sites who actually made that song.
No music should be sold for profit and if anyone even decides to buy music for that price is dumb.