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Yeah, sometimes the censorship on these forums is really awful feeling. Walking on eggshells saying anything even the slightest bit controversial. Interesting that the forums seem to be less active even though the playerbase has been returning/growing.
The forums are too overly moderated and closely watched to have any type of enjoyment anymore. (Strict is a better word.)
While I've never gotten a warning, I am almost sure I would if I let loose and posted often like the old days. This place used to be fun with the memes, and the spam, and the craziness.
Hellkaizer pretty much said it. Anyone still around is basically just walking on eggshells.
The irony here is we're all beating around the bush even talking here. Most people know what the issue is but as soon as it's brought up, bans are handed out and it gets silenced again.
P.S: OP, don't leave us... :c I quite enjoyed your posts here in forums.
The thing that's insane is talking out against some vfms results in an almost immediate warning/ban. Yes things like "haha ur so bad u suck" should just be dealt with and ignored, but legitimate criticism shouldn't be ignored. People are afraid to speak up for fear of warnings/bans and that's what killed the old forums, and now that it's happening again it's killing these forums as well.
See you in Valhalla.
Honestly I used to be so scared of moderators, thinking they'd warn or ban me.
Now I just don't care, nowhere near as much as I used to.
Besides, who's bright idea was to give VOLUNTEER mods the power to BAN? ..Or do they contact the higher ups to give out bans? :l
Supposedly, they contact the "team" to discuss bans. I think that's a load of hot garbage due to just how quickly some people get warnings. GM's can't answer tickets in 5-10 mins, why would they bother reading a forum warning/ban that quickly? And if the "team" is the other vfms then in that case that's just wrong, as the ban/warning isn't official at all.
Player mods in runescape could give you a chat mute (if you did this wrong, you'd not only lose your Pmod status but may also be banned) and your player reports were given priority. They couldn't just outright ban someone, it's a little ridiculous
From my own experience as a volunteer moderator in another game (now shut down) that was also primarily composed of volunteers, the moderators pretty much had full reign over the moderation tools, both in the forums and in-game. Kicking, banning, muting, etc; all the volunteer moderators had access to those tools. All that really mattered was maintaining the status quo as well; as long as that was done, there were no issues. The actual developers were pretty hands-off about moderation because of this, instead trusting their volunteer moderators. The moderation team was eventually expanded into volunteer community managers and another group of volunteers who didn't have access to moderation tools but were largely responsible for managing events and informing the higher ups of any wrongdoing. In the end, that game was mismanaged pretty badly; a lot of moderation done by players, even for more serious issues, and many of them either lacked experience or lacked impartiality. And that's coming from someone on that team who made plenty of mistakes. Certainly not someone who should've been able to run around invisible in-game.
That being said though, I can't speak for the volunteer moderation staff here since I have no clue what their modus operandi is. Their rules might be different, and they might also need to have GMs on the Nexon payroll vet their moderation. All I can do is really share my own experiences, and with that being said; I don't know what the rules are here in regards to how the volunteer moderators operate. But I will say that they are arguably representatives of Nexon and are arguably required to show some degree of professionalism in their management.
Feel like I'm going to regret posting this.
I pretty much had to drop my entire persona from the old forums due to this. I miss my nicely timed gifs and sass. /sad
That and I don't have the matching avatar anymore. Weren't we supposed to get those, like, eons ago?1. VFMs consult with Nexon on warnings and/or bans. A Nexon employee will issue any bans.
2. We are informed when a player is given a warning and are linked the evidence that support that warning.
3. VFMs operate under a set of rules given to them by us.
4. Warnings will always say which rule(s) was/were broken. It is 3 strikes before a user is banned.
5. Please review the Code of Conduct for the forums: http://forums.mabinogi.nexon.net/discussion/2/mabinogi-forums-code-of-conduct
Oh please. I was trying to tease another user by joking around, saying that i "baited" them in and i got a warning for baiting and flaming other users lol. Also got another warning for "insulting" because i told one user to "eat Snickers", meanwhile user next to me called Dev's idiots and got away with it clearly, because their posts wasn't removed. At this point, you better off not saying anything sassy or silly because you might get a warning out of nowhere.
If it's true that a 3rd warning is a ban then i might be backing off from these forums too then, because who knows what i'll get a warning for. Sigh.
If people are getting warned for that I can understand why people would want to stay away from the forums.