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AP training... too grindy

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  • MarithMarith
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    Tabari wrote: »
    Not for me, when ever I try and do that, the list resets the next time I log back in.


    It only keeps the first 10 entries in a tab. All of them after that will get reset.
    WolfandWolfHindsight
  • ShouKShouK
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    Dcat682 wrote: »
    Fireball's another nasty skill to AP level. I believe its over 100 for a small section between A and 9
    Why on earth would anyone AP level for Fireball though, it's one of the easiest skills to train
  • SplatulatedSplatulated
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    FayeKaiba wrote: »
    I honestly can't tell if this thread is serious or not. Clicking a button 10-15 times is nothing compared to hours and hours of grinding and all the button clicking you need to do for normally ranking a skill. People just...are people really complaining already?

    i mean it would be nice to have a +1 and -1 button like the trans training menu so its less clicky and can get lots done in 1 go
  • SplatulatedSplatulated
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    Tabari wrote: »
    Not sure if people know about this or not, but you can actually move skills around in your skill list, so skills for instance that are at the bottom of the list you can click and move it to the top kinda like how you would move a skill on your hotkeys

    Not for me, when ever I try and do that, the list resets the next time I log back in.

    you have to actually exit the game properly dont just press the red x or alt f4 it
  • SplatulatedSplatulated
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    Dcat682 wrote: »
    Fireball's another nasty skill to AP level. I believe its over 100 for a small section between A and 9

    fire ball is easy to train tho

    just join Tail defence battle on hard and blow up like all 5-6 mobs in 1 go combine with snap cast for fasterness
  • BlissfulkillBlissfulkill
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    edited May 19, 2017
    When even Splatulated trains Fireball faster and better than you do, you know you messed up.


    No offense Splat. I could not resist.
    GretaZeo
  • AgentJeanAgentJean
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    edited May 19, 2017
    Too Grindy?

    I went from r6 Magic Craft to r5 Magic Craft in a few clicks.

    And I might try maxing out cooking using this method too. To TNN with those Kitchen Dungeons.
  • kingjames488kingjames488
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    it does make it more difficult to see what can be leveled up at a glance though, since all the skills have green buttons next to them now >.<
    Dcat682
  • NafrayuNafrayu
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    2 questions:

    1. You need at least 30 training done. Can you use Skill training (35) and then use AP to train ?
    2. For the skill training boost (+50% at lvl 100) does it count in the requirements or is this out of requirements like reforge or badge ?
  • BlissfulkillBlissfulkill
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    Nafrayu wrote: »
    2 questions:

    1. You need at least 30 training done. Can you use Skill training (35) and then use AP to train ?
    2. For the skill training boost (+50% at lvl 100) does it count in the requirements or is this out of requirements like reforge or badge ?

    Yes. You can use Training seals, and then AP regardless of the actual training count, even if none of them are filled. You can also use brioniac after AP training, as AP training specifically fills in categories of training requirements, enabling brioniac's usage/
    Hindsight
  • BerrySwirlBerrySwirl
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    To all the people complaining about ap training. You guys obviously don't trains hard skills that are far worse to train manually than to rank them up using ap.

    Or you're salty because you did train them the hard way and now others don't have to.

    Either way...if you don't like it..don't use it?
  • PiarkirePiarkire
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    edited May 21, 2017
    Nafrayu wrote: »
    2 questions:

    1. You need at least 30 training done. Can you use Skill training (35) and then use AP to train ?
    2. For the skill training boost (+50% at lvl 100) does it count in the requirements or is this out of requirements like reforge or badge ?

    Yes. You can use Training seals, and then AP regardless of the actual training count, even if none of them are filled. You can also use brioniac after AP training, as AP training specifically fills in categories of training requirements, enabling brioniac's usage/

    Bold: This is partially incorrect; it will not allow you to AP train requirements that have a maximum count of 11 or less. This is because it trains 20% of that training, which 20% of 11 results in 2 which is what you get on an active talent bonus.

    As a note to everyone, I warn all of you that are using talent badges for training; the feature ignores them so you're getting the non-badge training when using AP training.
  • ShadoeShadoe
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    HOW DARE they expect me to actually log into the game to raise skill levels. ;)


    you have to actually exit the game properly dont just press the red x or alt f4 it
    My game doesn't ever close properly, but maybe it will save if people change channels afterwards?
  • justshowingjustshowing
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    I've finally got rank 1 of the harder skills I never touched before...
    lance charge, blaze, meteor, inspiration...

    but... I'm bored now... this is boring :-o
  • GretaGreta
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    I've finally got rank 1 of the harder skills I never touched before...
    lance charge, blaze, meteor, inspiration...

    but... I'm bored now... this is boring :-o

    Blaze is hard...?

    U w0t m8.
  • KagaKaga
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    I've finally got rank 1 of the harder skills I never touched before...
    lance charge, blaze, meteor, inspiration...

    but... I'm bored now... this is boring :-o

    You never touch blaze? that's just plain wrong.
  • XiokunXiokun
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    Blaze isn't hard! Blaze is fun! I like the kind of grindy skills that are fun to use. Like fighter... that was really fun. :3
    Kaga
  • CrimsCrims
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    edited May 22, 2017
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    Kaga wrote: »
    I've finally got rank 1 of the harder skills I never touched before...
    lance charge, blaze, meteor, inspiration...

    but... I'm bored now... this is boring :-o

    You never touch blaze? that's just plain wrong.

    I've barely touched blaze. I never found the skill to be that useful since it's more like a risky close proximity counter. It's annoying and I just don't like it. Eventually though I will have to rank it for the int and minor str points. Bleh...
  • KagaKaga
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    Gaea wrote: »
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    Kaga wrote: »
    I've finally got rank 1 of the harder skills I never touched before...
    lance charge, blaze, meteor, inspiration...

    but... I'm bored now... this is boring :-o

    You never touch blaze? that's just plain wrong.

    I've barely touched blaze. I never found the skill to be that useful since it's more like a risky close proximity counter. It's annoying and I just don't like it. Eventually though I will have to rank it for the int and minor str points. Bleh...

    It's more useful than Judgement blade + rage impact
    how bout dah
  • CrimsCrims
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    edited May 22, 2017
    Kaga wrote: »
    Gaea wrote: »
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    Kaga wrote: »
    I've finally got rank 1 of the harder skills I never touched before...
    lance charge, blaze, meteor, inspiration...

    but... I'm bored now... this is boring :-o

    You never touch blaze? that's just plain wrong.

    I've barely touched blaze. I never found the skill to be that useful since it's more like a risky close proximity counter. It's annoying and I just don't like it. Eventually though I will have to rank it for the int and minor str points. Bleh...

    It's more useful than Judgement blade + rage impact
    how bout dah

    Yeah but the mob has to get too close to you (imo) for you to use it. I guess I'm just mainly a FH spamming dual gun wielder with fire magic on the side. We all have our niches. If it works it works. ^^;;;

    Can't wait for that 3rd weapon slot. >_>;;;