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People need to stop with this method of selling stuff. Most of the time it's fake to get people to bid more cuz ur just too scare to announce ur greedyness to the rest of the server. I've seen c/o upward to 50m(Holy eagle mask
) to just come back a few weeks later after going off the radar to come back with a 30m c/o by the same person. Just give out ur a/w price if belvast's 20m can't hold it. I mean I culda purchased the item already if I can pay the grubby aw price. instead of wasting everyone's time and having the item go to a randomer who is still online to answer Ur note that U send out @ graveyard hours that even if I did win the pointless bid It'd go to the next person cuz I'm alseep waiting on ur ridiculous fake c/o no time limit auction to end.
/RANT
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It's the same item on C/O where the 2nd c/o is lower than it's first round of c/o by the same guy. The item should had sold already to the 50m c/o if it was legit...not come back around later with a lower bid chain c/o of 30m from before.
The person with the item has the selling upperhand when it comes to rare things like eagle mask. I don't have the time to spend all day refreshing party ad to get a legit offer where I don't walk away feeling ripped. Cuz no offers comes in unless ur setting urself up to being taken advantage of in these cases.
So yeah... I also felt like the paragraph I just typed is a good reason why items being rare does NOT always increase in value over time... especially with the hot pink heart wings and some other stuffs... sometime they drop in the value when we get new stuffs in game.
But anyways, back onto the topic, yeah... I agree that some people who put up fake current offers are extremely annoying and they should really stop with that while advertising it for a month or longer with the 'same current offer'.
Offer as small as possible or 1 gold up the highest bid and call it a fall back offer. If they're legit they'll actually put ur c/o in thier ad. If not it won't be reflected/ignored. That's ur que to avoid that bid chain.
Now if you are impatient or really need the item then you prolly have to deal with ridiculous prices if you are unlucky.
You could say "But where else am i supposed to get x rare item" but items being limited in various Gacha's is not the players fault, so you can't exactly blame them for taking advantage of a system the Devs introduced to the game.
Despite of all that i do sympathize with people that really need or want an item and someone bs c/o's them all day until they give up. However people are not gonna stop sadly
I always start with "C/o 0" and maybe days left, often at 7.
The sight of the empty offer makes someone at the very least throw a low bid to get it started.
When the days left are low, some people just bid on impulse to make sure they get it.
Item still generally sells for a desired amount, if not more.
Honest methods can work, if people actually put some effort into selling something.
But since these fake C/o ads exist, I guess that generally is not the case.
Although, I do love tossing them a note of "Tell me the name of the bidder, so I can confirm its a real offer."
And if they give a name, I message the name given to make sure.
Actually had someone go "What? I didn't offer for that." once.
You can't lie about offers if someone fact checks enough.
I'm not saying there's no such thing as fake c/o, just that it's not always what it might be. That's why if I take offers on something it's usually not for long or I try to set an a/w and then take that a/w (I've seen people get an offer for their a/w and still keep taking offers like... do they know what a/w means???) . I'm trying to sell my step 6 (secret 67th floor) demonic lance atm though and no one even offering at all except 20m :c which makes me want to put a fake c/o of at least 40m to stop lowballing.... but I don't because I know it's wrong
sometimes I wonder if adding m/b (minimum bid) to selling would work or just confuse people more
I never divulge those details for 2 reasons
1.) How do I know if the person that offered wants anyone to know that they bid on the item? Do they wanna get harrassed in notes about if they really offered or not? They could want it to be a secret
2.) This is the main reason too. How do I know you don't secretly have the item yourself and wanna snatch away MY possible buyer? I've had people actually do this to me before. Someone asks me who bid my high bid and next thing I know the person backs out saying they "found another one". I learned fast to shut my mouth
Yeah... that's just how I am though
I don't think this is necessarily the problem. Honestly, prices can go up or down depending on demand. What people are upset at is being dishonestly dragged along on "auctions" that have no real competition, and no way for the prospective buyers to validate if an opposing offer is legit or if the item is really worth the price to others. Generally we have to rely on friends to check if prices are legit or not, and word of mouth can only take you so far.
Because of this, I try to stay away from all sales where there is no auto win or I cannot negotiate an immediate price. This personal rule was especially hard to follow lately as I really wanted the argenta hair coupon. I still do not have said coupon, as I ended up giving up on each seller. It just isn't worth it if there isn't an autowin, and if they don't take your offer and are unwilling to haggle, you know they're going to play you. I ended up buying the hatless wig instead, which magically dropped drastically in price. Funny how that works...
Anyway, I've seen too many instances of a "current offer" being dragged along for weeks and then magically dropping. (And then the lower price being dragged along for weeks.)
Perhaps I should rephrase it for you.
In "Most" cases, I generally already know the person doing the bid. Might be because I'm a Tarlach merchant. A lot of us generally see eachother or our shops a lot. In most cases, me checking for the ign is to make sure its someone that actually exists.
In the best cases, I don't even have to toss a note since I know the name given.
As for example 2: If anyone serious(or even myself), wanted to "Snatch your buyers", I wouldn't ask for a name and a note.
I would just place an ad for the same item, but for 50-80% of what you are charging. Less hassle, faster results.
Although I guess since this is a thread of fake C/o's, I think things are just slightly different between server markets.
We all have different kinds of people running shops, after all.
Stop hurting DevCat's brains lol. Although the idea would be nice. And maybe make shop licencees so they can be reusable for a certain amount of time even after your offline. Because it is hell when you open shop, and you sell 1 or 2 items then there's a lagout and you are likely to make a loss on that licence.
Funny thing is that was the case for a few months(quite some time ago) till they issued a patch to "fix" it...
And I brought this screenshot again.