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Closed More Balanced Elves?
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If that additional 15 % means that much to you thats your problem not mine.
You can buy gloves with mag 18-20 on them for 10mil is all i was saying.
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15% does mean a lot to the people here talking about elf "end game".
We aren't talking about mid-tier elf archer.
I promise you, you won't get a lvl 20 mag glove for 10m (atleast not on my server)
Im pretty sure end game is just not losing , all that 15% does would make a run faster but I guess in your world in order to be qualified as endgame you need that 15%, min/maxers need to chill. Guess what someone with the boh set with perfect reforges and can still suck.
I do agree based on your server mag gloves could be over 25m but in alexina every now and then theres shops that sell mag 16-20 for like 10m-15m
It depends on the definition, but I don't think Kaga is wrong, nor did he say equipment is a substitute for skills. 15% more is a multiplicative factor, which depending on how it is factored, could mean much more damage overall, then on a "Comparative" basis. (Essentially, 1.15*Original Amount can confer numerous benefits if the original amount multiplied is substantially large, even if the percent increase isn't huge.)
You are right though, past a certain point, many things are able to be finished, and that excess damage is surely either a crutch, or a way to speedrun things.
That's what most "end game" elves go for, don't ask me.
I personally don't even use archery and I play as an elf.
I am more invested into Magic.
the whole "10m for endgame gloves" claim is a bunch of baloney, you need to stop moving the goal post dude js
also theres the fact that a build planning app for mabinogi does not exist, end game, okay sure whatever....
Guess i'll have to screen shot them from now on even though theres one other person that supports my claim.
Totally "baloney".
It is very fun for me to read this thread right now, so far I'm up to your reply Julie. And for this one, I just had to log in to comment.
If they created a way that you can "work hard/work your way there" to reach the level of people that "roll dice" to get where they are,
I would have so much more fun with Mabinogi than I already am right now.
Edit: Also, I don't know why but when I see something similar to this line, it kind of irks me.:
Edit 2:
OH MY GOD, YOU JUST PUT MY FEELINGS INTO THE PERFECT WORDS
THAT I COULD NOT FIND A MOMENT AGO, OR FOREVER... O_O
...
I hope Julie comes back to the game... Or mabinogi has changes that'll make her come back.
So nice to have someone talking sense and make you agree so much that you slap the screen and be like "I KNOW RIGHT? THAT'S HOW I FEEL."
I know right? I wish Julie to come back...
"all the reforges you need for 10m"
to
"endgame gloves for 10m"
to
"not bohemian but 15-20 magnum reforges for 10-15m"
and im guessing you're getting a screenshot for 15 magnum gloves for 20m next
hmmmmmm........
Would it kill any of you to just use what you find fun and not follow any sort of "meta" trend unless doing something like Phantasm?
Outside of Phantasm, Mabinogi is a laughably easy game.
People who jump onto bandwagons are usually the ones who say that "if you don't archer (as an elf) you aren't playing the game "right"
These are the same type of people who keeps switching races everytime there is some type of revamp.
It's also funny how much they kiss up overseas' servers play styles.. "ermeged korea/japan plays like dis, I have to do it to".
Like i said above, I don't archer and never will. I main chains (mainly for impale and sweep) and use n+blaze for aoe attacks.
Even for phantasm (for those who want to talk about end game clear speed crap) blaze is 10x times faster on the first floor than magnum spam.
If people want to main archery, go for it. No ones holding you back.
Just don't tell others that you have to main it to play the game as an elf "right".
if the goal is to actually get somewhere, i'm pretty sure you're better off working into making RL bank and transferring it into mabinogi, next closest thing would be to optimize clearing times
koreans also seem to be the only ones that give a damn about optimizing their times in mabi, im all in for some xenophobia like everyone else but come on you're hating on them for no reason
huehuehue
In the end, it's just someone that bought an item from someone else that spent reforges on it. The point is to find a solution to balance or another way to build yourself up without buying reforges/another person doing it for you.
I really don't want to start this argument, you have your opinion, I have mines. That's it. Reforges just irk me.
Out of curiosity, what's irksome about that? Is it not true that regardless of the skill, if you're looking to min-max you're going to have to invest in some reforges?
It is not a versatile race whatsoever though- you must be an archer if you consider yourself a serious player combat-wise. Maybe they should add/buff a spell or two in the magic talent tree soon, or new reforges for magic, or something. That could give elves another viable pathway.
But I'm enjoying the hell out of my Elf archer with chain sub for versatility after years of what I feel was neglect toward elf players.