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Grandmaster Nurfs

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  • HimochiHimochi
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    TNinja wrote: »
    Himochi wrote: »
    Siodhan: You are correct. But look at it this way: Prior to the update, you got the following:

    Master Bard: total stats of 15 HP, 15 STR, 30 Music Duration
    GM Bard: total stats of 15 HP, 15 STR, 50 Music Duration and 5% Buff Effect

    Now, a part of this big update, is that "even though each GM now has its own Active effect, you will ALSO get the PASSIVE effects of ALL your GMs, no matter what you have active".

    Buuuuuut...following the update, you get this:
    Master Bard: total stats of 15 HP, 15 STR, 30 Music Duration
    GM Bard: total stats of...15 HP, 15 STR, 30 Music Duration
    IF ACTIVE: total stats of 15 HP, 15 STR, 60 Music Duration and 5% Buff Effect

    So in essence, even though the update clearly states you get the passive effects of other GMs; if you aren't an ACTIVE GM Bard, you gain NOTHING by collecting the 20 seals and spending the 1m to make yourself GM Bard at all. Because there's now no stat boost between Master and GM. Does that make more sense?

    I do not quite understand this.

    Didn't you NEED an active talent to get the Grandmaster bonus before the update?

    Correct. The ONLY GM you could have before the update is now equivalent to the ACTIVE GM you can have now.

    But the problem is, not so much about a nerf anymore. It REALLY isn't a nerf, in the long run - the issue is Nexon clearly states "now that you can Grandmaster every talent, you can receive the passive stat boosts from each of them, no matter what you have active".

    However, if you rank Bard or either Alchemy from Master > Grandmaster...you don't gain any passive stat boosts. There's no REASON to GM it, if you're not going to have it active. It serves no purpose. Master Bard is 15 HP, 15 STR, 30 Duration. GM Bard is the exact same. I have GM Merchant active. Why would I spent the 1m and gather the 20 seals to GM Bard if the passive stats are no better?
  • IyasenuIyasenu
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    Himochi wrote: »
    TNinja wrote: »
    Himochi wrote: »
    Siodhan: You are correct. But look at it this way: Prior to the update, you got the following:

    Master Bard: total stats of 15 HP, 15 STR, 30 Music Duration
    GM Bard: total stats of 15 HP, 15 STR, 50 Music Duration and 5% Buff Effect

    Now, a part of this big update, is that "even though each GM now has its own Active effect, you will ALSO get the PASSIVE effects of ALL your GMs, no matter what you have active".

    Buuuuuut...following the update, you get this:
    Master Bard: total stats of 15 HP, 15 STR, 30 Music Duration
    GM Bard: total stats of...15 HP, 15 STR, 30 Music Duration
    IF ACTIVE: total stats of 15 HP, 15 STR, 60 Music Duration and 5% Buff Effect

    So in essence, even though the update clearly states you get the passive effects of other GMs; if you aren't an ACTIVE GM Bard, you gain NOTHING by collecting the 20 seals and spending the 1m to make yourself GM Bard at all. Because there's now no stat boost between Master and GM. Does that make more sense?

    I do not quite understand this.

    Didn't you NEED an active talent to get the Grandmaster bonus before the update?

    Correct. The ONLY GM you could have before the update is now equivalent to the ACTIVE GM you can have now.

    But the problem is, not so much about a nerf anymore. It REALLY isn't a nerf, in the long run - the issue is Nexon clearly states "now that you can Grandmaster every talent, you can receive the passive stat boosts from each of them, no matter what you have active".

    However, if you rank Bard or either Alchemy from Master > Grandmaster...you don't gain any passive stat boosts. There's no REASON to GM it, if you're not going to have it active. It serves no purpose. Master Bard is 15 HP, 15 STR, 30 Duration. GM Bard is the exact same. I have GM Merchant active. Why would I spent the 1m and gather the 20 seals to GM Bard if the passive stats are no better?

    For the mad journal points, yo? :s
  • HimochiHimochi
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    Giving Iyasenu top post so far.
  • ZeoZeo
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    edited July 10, 2017
    Discussed a bit about this with my friend who have lot of knowledge regarding foreign Mabinogi contents...

    It seem like we got some parts of it that is glitched? Because the passive boost you get from going Master into Grandmaster for Bard, both Alchemist, Puppeteer, and Gunslinger aren't supposed to stay the same so...

    edited:: Apparently the talent bonus in KR are the same as what we got recently so... we're not the only one who got some GM nerfs. ):
    Carlize