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  • SplatulatedSplatulated
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    Nexon wouldn't be losing money on the nx

    Players would buy Apex with a value of say 5000nx say for $25 - $50 you get 5 of them you can then trade these with players for in-game gold or items

    If a player redeemed it it's now nx bound to their account

    Say if they got 2 of them in a stack then could get the option to exchange get it for 2 weeks of VIP/Premium or get a flat 10k nx bound to their account

    This would allow people who absolutely refuse to spend money on the cash shop to potentially grind out how ever much the player set asking price for 1 Apex would be

    The in-game price wouldn't matter to nexon, if it's 100 gold per no one's gonna spend the $25-$50 buying any , but if it's over 10-30m per Apex then there's a chance that a large amount of players will buy Apex to sell for straight gold

    Which works both as a gold sink and a $ money flow, it's a win win for Nexon
    THICCthighssavelives
  • JazmynJazmyn
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    Nexon wouldn't be losing money on the nx

    Players would buy Apex with a value of say 5000nx say for $25 - $50 you get 5 of them you can then trade these with players for in-game gold or items

    If a player redeemed it it's now nx bound to their account

    Say if they got 2 of them in a stack then could get the option to exchange get it for 2 weeks of VIP/Premium or get a flat 10k nx bound to their account

    This would allow people who absolutely refuse to spend money on the cash shop to potentially grind out how ever much the player set asking price for 1 Apex would be

    The in-game price wouldn't matter to nexon, if it's 100 gold per no one's gonna spend the $25-$50 buying any , but if it's over 10-30m per Apex then there's a chance that a large amount of players will buy Apex to sell for straight gold

    Which works both as a gold sink and a $ money flow, it's a win win for Nexon

    Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Apex"?
  • SplatulatedSplatulated
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    Jazmyn wrote: »
    Nexon wouldn't be losing money on the nx

    Players would buy Apex with a value of say 5000nx say for $25 - $50 you get 5 of them you can then trade these with players for in-game gold or items

    If a player redeemed it it's now nx bound to their account

    Say if they got 2 of them in a stack then could get the option to exchange get it for 2 weeks of VIP/Premium or get a flat 10k nx bound to their account

    This would allow people who absolutely refuse to spend money on the cash shop to potentially grind out how ever much the player set asking price for 1 Apex would be

    The in-game price wouldn't matter to nexon, if it's 100 gold per no one's gonna spend the $25-$50 buying any , but if it's over 10-30m per Apex then there's a chance that a large amount of players will buy Apex to sell for straight gold

    Which works both as a gold sink and a $ money flow, it's a win win for Nexon

    Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Apex"?

    The term other MMOs use for their tradeable cash shop currency item

    RuneScape calls it bonds

  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Jazmyn wrote: »
    Nexon wouldn't be losing money on the nx

    Players would buy Apex with a value of say 5000nx say for $25 - $50 you get 5 of them you can then trade these with players for in-game gold or items

    If a player redeemed it it's now nx bound to their account

    Say if they got 2 of them in a stack then could get the option to exchange get it for 2 weeks of VIP/Premium or get a flat 10k nx bound to their account

    This would allow people who absolutely refuse to spend money on the cash shop to potentially grind out how ever much the player set asking price for 1 Apex would be

    The in-game price wouldn't matter to nexon, if it's 100 gold per no one's gonna spend the $25-$50 buying any , but if it's over 10-30m per Apex then there's a chance that a large amount of players will buy Apex to sell for straight gold

    Which works both as a gold sink and a $ money flow, it's a win win for Nexon

    Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Apex"?

    The term other MMOs use for their tradeable cash shop currency item

    RuneScape calls it bonds

    In other words, I smell crypto currency all over it. And that has way too much risks for me.
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  • GretaGreta
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    edited September 5, 2018
    Jazmyn wrote: »
    Nexon wouldn't be losing money on the nx

    Players would buy Apex with a value of say 5000nx say for $25 - $50 you get 5 of them you can then trade these with players for in-game gold or items

    If a player redeemed it it's now nx bound to their account

    Say if they got 2 of them in a stack then could get the option to exchange get it for 2 weeks of VIP/Premium or get a flat 10k nx bound to their account

    This would allow people who absolutely refuse to spend money on the cash shop to potentially grind out how ever much the player set asking price for 1 Apex would be

    The in-game price wouldn't matter to nexon, if it's 100 gold per no one's gonna spend the $25-$50 buying any , but if it's over 10-30m per Apex then there's a chance that a large amount of players will buy Apex to sell for straight gold

    Which works both as a gold sink and a $ money flow, it's a win win for Nexon

    Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Apex"?

    The term other MMOs use for their tradeable cash shop currency item

    RuneScape calls it bonds

    Mabinogi is NOT Runescape. Stop comparing two different games with totally different companies that serve them. NX is NOT Bond. You have been saying this same thing like a stuck CD in this thread all the time and no one even cares.
  • THICCthighssavelivesTHICCthighssavelives
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    "NX is not bond"

    Correct. A Runescape Bond is more like Mabinogi KR's Premium/VIP item. Both can be redeemed for premium membership, and both are tradeable once. There is no Runescape equivalent to NX though.

    We use Runescape as a case study for the effects of tradeable premium "currency" on the health of an MMO. From their wiki:
    A section of the RuneScape community found the introduction of bonds hypocritical and destructive to the integrity of the game, claiming that it was real world trading in the form of gold selling. This is due to the fact that the bonds can be bought with real-life money and sold for in-game gold.

    Jagex has said that despite the controversies, bonds did reduce the amount of real world trading that occurred on non-legitimate sites; within one week of the introduction of bonds, the amount of real-world trading dropped by 61%, and the amount of coins that was transferred by real world trading was down by 81%.

    Those are pretty good numbers. If applied to Mabi NA (like it exists in Mabi KR), we could at least get rid of almost all gold seller spam. :D
  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    "NX is not bond"

    Correct. A Runescape Bond is more like Mabinogi KR's Premium/VIP item. Both can be redeemed for premium membership, and both are tradeable once. There is no Runescape equivalent to NX though.

    We use Runescape as a case study for the effects of tradeable premium "currency" on the health of an MMO. From their wiki:
    A section of the RuneScape community found the introduction of bonds hypocritical and destructive to the integrity of the game, claiming that it was real world trading in the form of gold selling. This is due to the fact that the bonds can be bought with real-life money and sold for in-game gold.

    Jagex has said that despite the controversies, bonds did reduce the amount of real world trading that occurred on non-legitimate sites; within one week of the introduction of bonds, the amount of real-world trading dropped by 61%, and the amount of coins that was transferred by real world trading was down by 81%.

    Those are pretty good numbers. If applied to Mabi NA (like it exists in Mabi KR), we could at least get rid of almost all gold seller spam. :D

    That is still insufficient data to me to determine if that would get rid of most of the gold seller spam.
    And how would it even be implemented? I don't see any structure at the moment that would have a game currency trading system for Nexon.
  • kairisoadorikairisoadori
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    edited September 7, 2018
    or a better idea perma pet/partner trading medals and better events as in remove materials adding things like more dyes and fun items like festive hats i honestly dont care how crazy they look to outfits to things that where gotcha gets more flash week-long events where they're giving them away for free
  • AsurielAsuriel
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    they can make changes to stop players from hacking there systems nexon is just being lazy

    Nexon has had DDOS attacks, black robes, tent hacks, duplication, bots -still has bots, and so on. It does not matter what you do to upgrade security or anything in the like to "fix" your security issues as there is always going to be someone who finds a hole in your shield and can then access key components to hack into the game. Pardon my jargon to those who code and are tech savvy, I'm not and I apologise for my lack of knowledge when it comes to typing this out.
    Anyway - considering the fact that people can hack into GOVERNMENT sites and access things they shouldn't be able to access (i.e Pentagon level stuff), what makes a game be able to do this and be better at it than a governmental system? Everything has a loophole or a backdoor and it can be accessed if the person trying to access it is able to find their way in. Is Nexon lazy? Yeah, they are. But it's expected at this point for them to be lazy because they moved away from character cards to clothing bags to gachapons.
    NX isn't supposed to be bought and sold all willy-nilly and people do it, but they risk being banned because of it. Those gold bots you see? You're at risk of buying gold from them and then being reported to nexon - which will in turn also cause you to be banned. If you're on a dead or dying server, that sucks. Not really anything can be done about that unless you're out there actively promoting the game in a warm light and saying it's a fun and great place to be and that everyone is friendly. You'd be lying, but that's legit the only way to revive the game.

    when you can go play things like tera blade and soul and or final fantasy xiv/xi with times more content then mabinogi and quality yearly updates and a larger community with servers not basically dying

    Not everyone who plays mabinogi stays on mabinogi. All games die in the end, and when this game dies? I'll be sad. I admit it, I've spent a long time playing, but will it be the end of the world? The end of my life? No. Because there are new games that come out every single day. New experiences to be had. Mabinogi is its own game. It doesn't have to live up to the final fantasy mmo or Tamriel or skyrim online or whatever other games there are for MMORPGS. Mabinogi is a FREE to play game with micro purchasing - you don't pay a monthly subscription to play it or have to buy it before playing it. (Like WoW, Tamriel Unlimited, Skyrim, Final Fantasy, etc).

    Is the micropurchasing a pain? Yes, you bet your butt it is. Not everyone can afford it and they miss out on great items, be it enchants or weapons or clothes. But, sadly, that's just how Nexon runs things. And they don't really care about Mabinogi. They've made the abundantly clear.
    Greta