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Closed Increase the BANK limits
This is an ongoing annoyance that I run into from time to time. I mean, just let me do what the hell I want. What if there is something for 1b that I wanna buy but the seller is MIA and I don't want to wait and get screwed over with greedy troll offers? Seriously, every time I put up an ad or want to buy something and people know they double the freaking price. (Especially if they know it's me). I should just be able to buy whatever the hell I want without checks. I should be able to store WAY more gold without having to buy another character card - which IMO to only store another 10m is a RIP OFF in today's in-game economy.
I propose that the bank storage limits be DOUBLED from their present limits.
40m per character for the first 10 characters and then
20m per character after that. I got enough pets and characters
overloading my screen everyday. I don't want to buy more character cards just so I can store a LITTLE more gold. Gold limits should of been way more than what they are ever since the auction house update.
Please increase the bank limits NA, for the sake of anonymity and fair market. Thank you.
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Not gonna pretend I know how they could fix that (other than maybe actually doing something about the people clearly botting SMs with their own alts) but this would do more harm than help.
Fine, I guess I will just have to buy BLEEP anon.
The main issue is that we've artificially added three entire economies worth of gold and NX together, didn't incentivize content participation, and somehow expected prices not to adjust accordingly. There are extra problems of duplicated gold existing within the community's economy along with Nexon themselves pumping out free gold checks with these events (funny how no one is complaining about that, though -- especially the one from Jan 2020 when everyone got guaranteed gold checks of up to 7.77m x 3 per account). The Black Market is also partially responsible, because prices are translated from gold prices, meaning: if someone pays more IRL cash for an item, then the prices still adjust to that and translate back into gold. It's not as simple as "ban all the 'bots' that'll still circumvent the filters and enact more 'new account' restrictions that screw over new players more than the dang bots."
But, I do agree that adding more gold storage wouldn't fix anything. It'd allow more players to be able to hoard more gold, meaning sellers would -- after obtaining this information -- raise their prices without worry of someone not being able to pay for their item due to gold storage restrictions. The gold storage limit has the side effect of acting like a general ceiling value for item prices.
It would allow players like me to make anonymous expensive purchases without the middle man and prevent price gouging trolls from cropping up with their troll amounts. Like if I see something on the auction house - I wish I could just BLEEPING buy it at my own discretion.
Good example; I once wanted to buy a Bunny Hairpin, but there were none on the market. This is usually a common item and thus should be cheap BUT because of the downturn this game is experiencing as the economy gets worse (and will continue to get worse now) there are less and less players. So, I posted an ad and MIRACULOUSLY there was finally a Bunny Hairpin on the market but it was for 15m! THIS HAPPENS A LOT TO ME. Every. Single. Time. Every time I post an ad looking for an item it is NEVER posted with a reasonable price. I DEMAND ANONYMITY and don't want to spend 500 bucks to have that ability AND have my start screen overloaded!
Like right now,
I am thinking of buying a divine bladeBUT I know if I post an ad the price will double (because this community hates me and has never stopped being PREJUDICE towards me. iwtwafgaad).THIS IS WHY. I hope you can see my point now.
I see people multi clienting on avalon purifications, and rn on weekends multiclienting on sidhe bc of the event. I see alts who have 3 level 30 echostones and they can sell them literally for hundreds of millions on mabi.
Multiclienting or using mule accounts to alleviate the rng of the game can cause monopolies and power shifts and in turn make sellers and distributors of what's supposed to be hard to get more powerful and richer than someone who doesn't. It makes a giant wealth gap that would pressure people to raise prices bc they know someone who is rich can afford it and would contest others to afford it.
The bank limit is also horrible since it doesn't reflect the economy currently, if the bank limit is to help with avoiding inflation then it has already failed. With max bank limit I can't even buy a massive despair shield with a peace of mind and anonymity. I could only buy the mats and farm my own mats, since going with others I can't just take their drops for hosting the run- unless I decide to go in with 7 alts then i'll cut a whole years worth of grind into just 2months.
Thank you.
You are welcome.
In conclusion, this game is not ready to let people freely store any amount of gold in their banks any time soon. And I'm glad if it keeps on to be like this, because you know it's because of the issues we addressed above.
Aren't Dead Bee's that?
Time to introduce different types of currencies, such as Block-Chain-style Crypto-Currencies, via a Quantum-Financial-System ! Also, End the Fed, and other stuff like that which Ron Paul might say. Okay, okay, but, seriously (not that I wasn't already intending to respond in a serious manner), why is Gold the only «Universal» currency in this world, anyway ? Ever notice how the Gold has no denominations ? Most coin-based economies usually have a combination of copper, silver, gold, even platinum-coins.
Out in the/our «real» world, gold-backed financial-systems actually keep the prices and the economy stable, such that the 100$ that you might stash under your bed today would still have its 100$ purchasing power even 200 years from now (but, when usury is involved, and the $$$ is backed by literally nothing, that is when «inflation» happens). Just be glad that the Mabi-Economy isn't owned and controlled by criminal-banksters like the Rothschilds who engage in a practice called «predatory lending» to nations (and thus acting like Loan-Sharks... I hope you Americans figure out that any «Martial Law» that may soon befall your land, and perhaps even the rest of the entire world, is directly related to the U.S. having a 27$US debt, and do you know what Loan-Sharks DO to their contract-debtors who do not pay back the loans...? Well...? DO ya!? O_O).
Also, in responding to he who says that multi-clienters are causing «inflation» because of their high-efficiency mining/grinding of Echo-Stones, not to come across as rude or insulting, but you are very wrong about that sort of thing causing inflation. If anything, that sort of thing is what actually lowers the price of goods, due to the increased «productive» capabilities of what makes it even available on the market at all, otherwise the prices would actually be FAR higher than what you see. Are you new here as well as new to how the «real world» works or did you simply make a second forum-account given your two-post count ? Let me explain. Computers used to have SKY-HIGH costs compared to what they cost now. Mass-Production was what allowed the prices of otherwise super-expensive computers/electronics to become available and affordable to the «common folk» rather than being solely for Aristocrats, Upper-Class-men, and other members of society who are regarded as so-called Wealthy...
I can give you another example of that in the Mabi-Universe; multi-client/multi-character farming of Holy Waters. DO you seriously think/believe that the cost of Stacks of Holy Waters goes UP because of multi-clienters using multiple characters to be able to list Stacks of Holy Waters onto the A-H ? (And in Kiosks and Personal-Shops for good measure) I guarantee you that if multiple people were using multiple clients (because it's not that terribly impossible to be able to own multiple computers/laptops in this day-and-age) and multiple characters to keep a constant stock of eggs/potatoes/corn & park them all at Castanea, especially if they were in «competition» with/against one another, the prices for the Holy Water Stacks would actually go down... same with who-ever may be Echo-Stone-farming as you put it; their efforts would actually make Echo-Stones more affordable for «peon» Milletians like you and I (although in all fairness I no doubt have more comprehensive knowledge and thus much more accurate knowledge about how markets and economies actually work [keep in mind though that I have also put in literally thousands of hours into studying the histories of banking and financial-systems which is actually far beyond what college-educated people typically have in their knowledge-repertoire]).
Also, for those of you who haven't noticed or figured this out yet, Crimson is a highly dedicated Milletian in Mabinogi. I doubt she even plays anything else... I would even say that all her «game-time» consists entirely of Mabinogi. That amount of time/dedication will get you towards what many people call «end-game» faster and thus make the gathering/collection of raw-materials that much faster & more efficient (and ultimately drive costs down). Whilst, certainly, a dedicated group of «market-snipers/hoarder» or whatever they're called could cause artificial-inflation by creating a market-monopoly by auto-buying out all of the stocks of whatever they wish to jack up the price for (similarly to those Wikipedia-hijackers who want to force their ideological-monopoly into the search-results), the farming/manufacturing of goods/products is not the cause of the inflation, but, rather, cartel-regime-style operations that would be causing inflation, but you'd seriously have to be some sort of tin-foil hat conspiracy theorist to actually believe that there are groups of Milletians jacking up and manipulating the market-prices and unfairly shut out anybody else from being a competitor.
One thing I agree with is that people multiclienting do have some positives, in that we have more materials in the market and that can help the growth of the player base. Keep in mind this isn't the real world, it's a game, individuals can create fluctuations in the market that retrospective studies on the real world cannot predict. A counterexample to your point is the common and cheap item from AH suddenly becomes 15m even though it's supposed to be a common item from the OP's experience, or how some people don't even think about the price they are selling at they just wanna get rid of it and down sell it even if it is rare hence making analogies to the real world is not exactly cogent.
Also I've been reading mabinogi forums since 2005. I didn't have a forums account until just recently to actually post.