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Remove or revamp bugles

FableAuraFableAura
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in Feedback and Suggestions
Nonstop spam across all channels from people wanting to read us the bible is getting old real fast.

And when it's not two dudes reading us a sermon, it's arguments involving racism and misogyny.

-Cooldowns on bugles (like 10 minutes or more)
-Limits to single channel
-Ability to disable bugle banner
-Expand blacklist to include bugles (which, really, the entire blacklist function is in desperate need of reworking!)
-Actually have staff pay attention to reports regarding bugle abuse

So many options that would improve the gameplay experience of everyone involved. Honestly, I think the game is past the point where bugles are a worthwhile tool, they should totally be removed. But knowing that Nexon won't do that, please at the very least adjust them so that they can't be spammed endlessly by whales or used to bother people just trying to play the game.

Bugles offer nothing to the gameplay experience and the number of people who try to use it for good gameplay reasons are vastly in the minority.

If there was a reason I would stop spending money on Mabi or leave the game entirely, it would be Nexon/Devcats unwillingness to fix simple problems like these. New content means nothing if we can't avoid problematic players who are a negative impact on our time.
Remove or revamp bugles! Please!
Negumiko

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  • NegumikoNegumiko
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    For revamping Bugles I think making it so if you have a player blacklisted you won't see their message and adding a 5 to 10 minute cooldown would be enough. To send a lot of messages like that over and over is actually pretty expensive. Horn Bugle World costs 990NX which is almost $1.00 per message (but slightly less if you buy 5 for 4,200NX) and Horn Bugle World Premium 1,390NX which about $1.40 per message (slightly less if you buy 5 for 5,900NX). Like or not these annoying players spamming are helping keep the servers up so I feel their messages should still be seen by most player but there should be some limits as well. Those two spamming that sermon all day probably spent over $200 on Bugles so I see why Mabi keeps them around.

    A minimum 5 minute cooldown before being able to use another Bugle to prevent flooding chat with constant messages and if you block a certain player you personally won't see their Bugle messages anymore. Currently Bugles could be used as way for players to continue to harass others even if they have blocked you which could drive away players. Anyone should have the right to block someone and never see them or ANY of their messages again. Also yes Bugle Messages should be watched by staff more but realistically that will never be perfect as it is a lot of work to keep a eye on so many things in a chat in a mmo. It would be better if Nexon added a bot or strong filter for Bugles filtering out most bad words and topics that shouldn't be on display for every player to see. If we could just block a player using a Bugle in 2 seconds that would solve most of the issues.

    As for improving the Blacklist feature personally I think the Blacklist should have it's own tab right between your Friends List and Guild Members tab. Currently the Friend List can only hold 200 players which includes Blacklisted players as well. Give the Blacklist it's own tab so we can have up to 200 friends and Blacklist up to 200 players keeping both lists and their player count separate. Also add a counter to each list so we can see how many friends we have out of the 200 slots we have.
  • LoomyOfPiLoomyOfPi
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    How often have any of these bugle announcements been beneficial to the Mabi community? Rarely, someone will let everyone know when something special is happening (like when we all waited for rain in Zardine recently). But most of the time, they are just spam.

    I wouldn't shed a tear if they were to disappear. Well, let GMs have them, but not the average player.
  • SherriSherri
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    i think limiting their use and restricting them would just backfire and anger people (they are spending money after all), but giving us the ability to hide them on our side and blacklist actually working for bugles should definitely be considered!
  • ChoCho
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    FableAura wrote: »
    -Limits to single channel
    -Ability to disable bugle banner
    -Expand blacklist to include bugles (which, really, the entire blacklist function is in desperate need of reworking!)



    You can actually mute people using the other blacklist function in the Game>Chat options menu and their bugles won't show up. The problem is that it's limited to 60 people. When Mari, Tarlach, and Ruairi merged, 60 was enough but now they need to double it.

    They already sell channel only bugles. People choose to use the world ones to be more obnoxious get more attention.
    Negumiko wrote: »
    Like or not these annoying players spamming are helping keep the servers up so I feel their messages should still be seen by most player but there should be some limits as well. Those two spamming that sermon all day probably spent over $200 on Bugles so I see why Mabi keeps them around

    You can actually get world bugles for free in-game and they sell for about 150k average on auction house. I'm sure there are rich players sitting on millions who can easily stock up on AH bugles so they can quote bible verses at you and promote their twitch giveaways.

    IMO they could remove bugles and just add a global chat. Make it only available to premium service/VIP users or people who buy 30-day global chat coupons for 1000 NX a month. And then they can give players the option to remove chat tabs. There are 4~5 too many chat tabs and if you disable them, it only greys them out but doesn't remove them.
    Sherri