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Red vs Blue

CyberjoelCyberjoel
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Curiously i asked what would be good to have on a fire wand. Red or Blue upgrade.

After a bugleing question i had the most mixed responses.

So im curious to ask.

With a cc fire wand. Or any equipment for the matter.

What would you put? Red upgrade stones or Blue?

And why? X3
  1. Red or Blue upgrade stones.21 votes
    1. Red
       57% (12 votes)
    2. Blue
       43% (9 votes)

Comments

  • TsumukuTsumuku
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    This is really going to depend on what spell you intend to use, and what your M.ATK is right now. For most cases with fire, your damage will be greater using Red. However, you'll have significantly more invested into the wand by going with red, and you'll need to decide if that investment makes sense.
    If you have some really good reforge on it, or some great enchants that make this worth doing, most likely red, because it is fire and has a low cross over point for M.ATK being in the low 100s area.
  • CyberjoelCyberjoel
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    edited April 23, 2017
    Tsumuku wrote: »
    This is really going to depend on what spell you intend to use, and what your M.ATK is right now. For most cases with fire, your damage will be greater using Red. However, you'll have significantly more invested into the wand by going with red, and you'll need to decide if that investment makes sense.
    If you have some really good reforge on it, or some great enchants that make this worth doing, most likely red, because it is fire and has a low cross over point for M.ATK being in the low 100s area.

    To answer your question its for firebolt spam. Its a cc4 wand. And heres my personal stats

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  • GrawardGraward
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    This thing might still be correct. http://mabimath.tumblr.com/post/90141281115/special-upgrades-red-or-blue
    Even though this was posted in 2014, the information in it has been referenced several times in recent history (as early as Jan of this year.)
    More relevantly:

    When applied to different skills, in order to benefit more from Red Upgrades than Blue Upgrades, you’ll need:

    Icebolt: 454 Magic Attack
    Firebolt: 415 Magic Attack
    Lightning Bolt: 404 Magic Attack
    Ice Spear: 483 Magic Attack
    Fireball: 454 Magic Attack
    Thunder: 464 Magic Attack
    Hailstorm: 561 Magic Attack
    Meteor Strike: 114 Magic Attack
    Lightning Rod: 616 Magic Attack
    Shockwave: 574 Magic Attack

    When you use a wand that’s aligned with the spell element you use, it raises the base damage, reducing the amount of Magic Attack you use, going down to almost 360 for Firebolt.
  • TsumukuTsumuku
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    edited April 23, 2017
    Music-Q lowers those numbers. That was the rational behind my reasoning. If you're only going CC Firewand, then do blue. It really won't be worth the investment with red and the cross over point is going to happen long after you outgrow that wand.
    There is another post over at -link removed- that does align with most of these numbers.

    So for your situation blue for cost, and blue for usefulness, it is really a win-win.