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New Gachapon...

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  • lidiyalidiya
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    Rhey wrote: »
    I'm just gunna toss my 2 cents in here...

    OHGODNOReactionGif.gif~c200

    2...many...WINGS...

    you are correct it is an insane number of wings that make that wing gacha for 400 coins only give you a 1/36 chance to get the wings you want...
  • SherriSherri
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    I'm soooo sick of these gachas..
    Behelit
  • SylviaWolfeSylviaWolfe
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    edited June 22, 2017
    Me looking at the new free event wolf titles:
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    Me looking at the page of gacha wings and coin gimmick:
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    Rukiya
  • SebastianSebastian
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    Me looking at the new free event wolf titles:
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    Me looking at the page of gacha wings and coin gimmick:
    r6WqOyB.png

    These Fire Emblem memes give me life.
    SylviaWolfeRadiant DawnRukiya
  • MySkyFallsMySkyFalls
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    It's impressive that they managed to create a gacha that's worse than the FSN one.
    Behelit
  • SylviaWolfeSylviaWolfe
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    Sebastian wrote: »
    These Fire Emblem memes give me life.

    I see that you too are a man of culture

  • ZeoZeo
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    We got the 36 new pair of wings yet they seem to be pretty rare... because I opened around $200 worth of the new gacha and didn't get any wings, you'd think you'd pull at least few of them by now because I mean... 36 new pair of wings, jeez.

    And if you spent enough to get 400 coins to turn in for a box of wings... you have 1/36 chance of getting the wings you want which is bad too... they should've made it so you can pick what wings you want from opening the box when you have enough coins saved up...
    SylviaWolfebadnewsbarrett
  • AeolysAeolys
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    The featured items on the announcement page should be renamed to "Here are some stuff that you will never get. Except for that one person on each server".
    SollArjuneSylviaWolfeXiokunCrimsZeoRadiant DawnTairiku
  • MIIUMIIU
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    Policroma wrote: »
    You'll probably need 8 stacks of gacha to get Enn's outfit.

    I'm curious. Are the coins tradeable?

    This is what i got for 30 dollar i put in http://prntscr.com/fn1qi6
  • BroochBrooch
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    The level of exploitation in these gachapons has gotten unreal. Layers upon layers of RNG. It's bad enough that the rates of getting something decent from the box are low, but to have to spend hundreds of dollars to get another RNG box where you are very likely not to get the wings you want is disgusting.
    Behelit
  • PolicromaPolicroma
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    edited June 22, 2017
    I'm just gonna put this in as a constructive criticism. I see both good and bad in this gacha, but as long as GMs are listening, I may as well put this in:
    GMNkeona wrote: »
    Thanks everyone for your feedback! I will go ahead and forward this feedback, so we can execute this better(prices, etc) if we decide to do it again.

    Here's the thing Nkeona... I seriously think Nexon tried this time, and personally I liked the gacha and got what I wanted in less than 2 stacks and am satisfied. But people look at Loot Crates in games like Overwatch and they see people getting items of relatively equal worth opening each box, and then they come here....

    What I've noticed lately is that our gachas, on top of our usual already-low drop rates for featured items, have been following a rather annoying pattern. Some of the featured items will be frequent drops and easy to get, whereas others will be almost near-impossible to get, to the point that people are convinced that they can't get them. And it's almost always the female items or new wings that are in the second category.

    Basically, the gachas are a slot machine, and the featured item on the female side usually ends up being a jackpot-on-top-of-a-jackpot prize. Now I don't know how things are in Korea... but people here are getting frustrated and less likely to spend. And if that's NOT the case, it's at least giving that impression when people don't see the featured item on the backs of every AFK-seller in Belvast. A general rule of thumb for gambling in a casino is if you don't see people winning at the slot machines, nobody will play the slot machines. And that is your issue right now. People don't see each other winning and don't want to play.

    The gacha is very obviously intended to attract the so-called "whale" and keep them happy with comps for their slot-machine gambling, but even the whales are getting frustrated. The odds alone (compounded with the number of tokens to get a "good" item and the amount of money you have to spend to get those tokens) are going to just piss people off. This frustration is further compounded by all the bot-money inflation recently in our server... legit players can't keep up with those prices. I personally think it's an improvement, but as you may have noticed the already gacha-tired have revolted. I think either the prices need some adjusting, or the tokens need to be ***TRADEABLE!!!!!!!***

    On top of this... While I personally like getting training potions, getting a pile of dyes when many of our inventories are still absolutely FLOODED with dyes is very ouch-worthy. I think this would have been an excellent chance to introduce the hair dye colors that Korea has. (Yeah, I know, I won't shut up about 'em, because I want to buy them!) Or even just entirely drop the Jackpot vs. Trash mentality entirely. Surely you can eek more cash out of a few thousand players than a few dozen "whales"?
    AeolysZeoRadiant DawnCarlize
  • MIIUMIIU
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    i think people should just tell other people to stop buying the gacha cause its a rip off
  • MIIUMIIU
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    lidiya wrote: »
    Rhey wrote: »
    I'm just gunna toss my 2 cents in here...

    OHGODNOReactionGif.gif~c200

    2...many...WINGS...

    you are correct it is an insane number of wings that make that wing gacha for 400 coins only give you a 1/36 chance to get the wings you want...

    lol his face thats how people face look when they get nothing
  • KokoroKokoro
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    I don't really understand the hate on the new coins thing. Normally we pay 1500nx anyway for a gacha with the same low chance and get nothing extra. Now we get a couple of consolation prizes if we didn't win big. I'd like all gachapon to be like this in the future.
    AeolysPolicromaCarlize
  • AeolysAeolys
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    edited June 22, 2017
    Kokoro wrote: »
    I don't really understand the hate on the new coins thing. Normally we pay 1500nx anyway for a gacha with the same low chance and get nothing extra. Now we get a couple of consolation prizes if we didn't win big. I'd like all gachapon to be like this in the future.
    I agree but one pitfall with your idea is that after the sale of the gachapon is over, the coins essentially become useless. Maybe if coins are universal for all future gachapon? It would certainly make people happy who only want to spend a certain amount each time a new gachapon rolls in and they can get something substantial when they collect enough. Spending a massive amount of money at once is not something many people like to do. Most people are more willing to spend money for a handful, ten or just one big 45 stack but not $200 worth.
  • BroochBrooch
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    Policroma wrote: »
    On top of this... While I personally like getting training potions, getting a pile of dyes when many of our inventories are still absolutely FLOODED with dyes is very ouch-worthy. I think this would have been an excellent chance to introduce the hair dye colors that Korea has. (Yeah, I know, I won't shut up about 'em, because I want to buy them!) Or even just entirely drop the Jackpot vs. Trash mentality entirely. Surely you can eek more cash out of a few thousand players than a few dozen "whales"?

    I agree with your entire post, but I think this needs extra emphasis. PLEASE give us a break from dyes for a bit. If we're going to include items like these, at least include the 'rare' dyes and/or Direct Dye Ampoules so one can choose the colour one wants.

    Zeo
  • KokoroKokoro
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    Aeolys wrote: »
    Kokoro wrote: »
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    I agree but one pitfall with your idea is that after the sale of the gachapon is over, the coins essentially become useless. Maybe if coins are universal for all future gachapon? It would certainly make people happy who only want to spend a certain amount each time a new gachapon rolls in and they can get something substantial when they collect enough. Spending a massive amount of money at once is not something many people like to do. Most people are more willing to spend money for a handful, ten or just one big 45 stack but not $200 worth.

    Hmm I think maybe it would be good if the coins were tradeable among players so that the one stack of 11 can still get players a little bit of gold from the people aiming for the huge prizes.

  • XiokunXiokun
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    I just want a toilet. :(
    Behelitnevyn25
  • nevyn25nevyn25
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    more disappointed by this gach than I expected to be. already decided to skip it after it only having been released for several hours, due to seeing how the featured items are virtually non-obtainable due to drop rates, and the coins not having any merit for me since I can only afford 2-3 stacks max. if only a decent amount of coins had been available via in-game tasks or hot-weekends and such I might just have taken a gamble...
  • GakkuriaquaGakkuriaqua
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    Kokoro wrote: »
    Aeolys wrote: »
    Kokoro wrote: »
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    I agree but one pitfall with your idea is that after the sale of the gachapon is over, the coins essentially become useless. Maybe if coins are universal for all future gachapon? It would certainly make people happy who only want to spend a certain amount each time a new gachapon rolls in and they can get something substantial when they collect enough. Spending a massive amount of money at once is not something many people like to do. Most people are more willing to spend money for a handful, ten or just one big 45 stack but not $200 worth.

    Hmm I think maybe it would be good if the coins were tradeable among players so that the one stack of 11 can still get players a little bit of gold from the people aiming for the huge prizes.

    tbh id like a gacha recycle system. To be able to change anything you get from the gacha into coins then spend the coins to get something you'd actually like. This way you won't end up with ridiculous amount of trash in your inventory and probably get something worth while with all the money you spent.
    Policromanevyn25AeolysZeoTairiku