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The Elf Revamp, Yes I said it.
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I'm 12k and have everything exept alchemy maxed
SoE caps at 40k. It's not about skill cap.
Or perhaps some people don't actually feel like arguing about wallet warriors and about videos that incorporate far more than and almost nothing of the actual initial post's topic. This promptly became another thread about elf QQ and the crushing of elf QQ alongside actual criticism, in equal, uncaring amounts. I said what I thought about the proposed changes, but this all feels very different from the initial premise and I can understand if people are tired as hell of this type of attitude. You could cut them some slack, at least.
I'm aware elves can run everything. I'm not a fan of the general QQ, either. You'll have to realize that some of these threads -- or perhaps some posts in these types of threads -- are not always "QQ" though. It always gets written off like that. Always.
Problem is, some of you treat everyone who starts a discussion like this as an idiot, but it takes one to know one. Case in point, check how you now pray to those few posts like a work of God and assume it is the whole truth and all knowledge you have is innately superior and everyone else is automatically dumb, despite maaaaybe there being a chance that you're not actually fully right, or you misunderstood a person's intentions or words. That is why some of us don't like arguing about this for a long time, including myself. Hell, even if you were to be right (that is not to say that you aren't, but I'm not convinced that you are in everything you say), you are all wording your posts to condescendingly and low-key rudely that I am immediately put off by it, regardless of the point. So...you know what, actually. I'll just be elsewhere. Jesus.
I can't find anythin' to complain about mirage missile (other than the cooldown time ofc XDDDDDDDD)
KR needs to get their act together and take into account the difference in internet speed here >>
EDIT: Oops forgot to add my 2 cents about Final Shot.
I like the idea of makin' it so that it nvr misses. I mean have any of you tried to use Shine of Eweca AND FS together? YA STILL BLOODY MISS 90% OF THE TIME!!!!!!!
I use it all the time. Cannot see the complaint here. It functions as intended, which ideally, is what I have always wanted.
Yet no video or any evidence of the issue to support said claim topical...
Focus fist I-frame that nobody uses, think outside of the box for once when mirage missile has a slowdown effect on target....
Pretty much this.
I understand that some people want to "fix" archery by buffing it outside of reforges, but...
If you just do nothing but buff it, that does not solve the "problem".
By buffing normal archery, you also buff archery reforges. Most likely by an even larger amount due to % values.
So instead of getting rid of the funding, reforges, or as pheng put it, "Wallet warriors", you actually make them stronger and have an even larger presence in your vain attempt to get rid of them.
Even the final shot buff idea would be absurd. Sure it would make non reforge archery stronger, but then you'll have reforges around to make final shot's new buff into an unlimited mode combined with already present archery reforges.
Nothing would be a challenge anymore. Even less so than now.
There is a reason I said to just let Chain Slash be the indirect elf buff.
It doesn't mess with what is already there, its powerful, and elves can use it with little to no funding and be effective.
Chain impale + support shot
Duo same set up
Exactly! Well, most of the time it only becomes Elf QQ if somebody deems the thread Elf QQ and ruins the thread
(The rest below is not directed towards you, it's me ranting. Again. I apologize, just sick and tired of all this hate towards elves.)
I've said it before and I will say it again, treat the thread like any other.
This is a simple thread discussing elves and possible revamps for them.
Yet people love to call every elf related thread 'QQ'.
I really don't understand why people do this!
Yes, their archery is overpowered, okay whatever. I just want more options! I hate archery!
Let us be better with more than just that! What happened to us being good with magic?!
I only want more diversity for us! This is literally all I want.
More talents that elves can use well, besides archery and only archery. I'm not asking for it to be OP as archery either!
Maybe even dual wielding. Perhaps take out the dual wielding mastery for elves to make up for it?
I don't even want final hit, I just wanna dual wield.
Chains class better be good..
is that w/o reforges? that's pretty cool
so basically humans and elves win here. Giants can't use SS
humans also have lower cooldown for SS for some reason
Death marker + (Board axe) Giant full swing only, giants aren't that far behind.
Anyway, I don't personally agree with people arguing against changing something simply because of idealized theoretical scenarios. A Pivotal Moments Rusted Longsword has a max damage of 999, does that mean I can call it the best weapon in the game and it has no flaws? I don't think so. I used this extreme example to illustrate that it's the same with Elves, though much more complex than that. So what if Elves can theoretically do the most damage? It doesn't change the fact that archery in particular is extremely clunky, highly prone to lag/latency, and for Elves in particular relies heavily on an ability with a 36-minute cooldown that you can only use at level 100+. Are all of these factors totally fine simply because of what can be achieved in the ideal scenario that doesn't even apply for most players most of the time? I don't think so, myself.
Not everyone has it.
Archery is the strongest skillset for elves, hence why elves are the strongest race according to you.
If you look up to the other regions so much, why don't you show us what you can do in NA instead of asking how many of us still play the game since all of those videos you showed us are solo runs.
So it doesn't really matter how many people still play or quit the game.
If people knew how much that guy in the video for example spent on all that gear, they wouldn't even try to be like him.
The only one in this thread who wouldn't mind spending thousands of bucks for a 2004 MMORPG game here is only you.
The only thing that's cringy here is how far up in JP's ass you are.
Find me videos of NA runs, instead of other regions.
I see that your posting videos and stuff like this and in my opinion it helps but hurts at the same time.
Mostly because that stuff looks like it might not be as effective on our lovely latency switching and summoning that quick between with no fail so to me your videos instantly lose all meaning.
On top of that we have no idea what level or stats these people are it just shows us we could possibly as this race do this thing at this unknown level and equipment.