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KR Mabi seems to be doing something with Vales...

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  • ArjuneArjune
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    edited February 23, 2017
    yeah I'm sure you wouldn't be upset at all if only humans and giants could get that title. it would be completely fair for only 2 of the 3 races to be able to solo the hardest content in the game because the title from it is "crappy"

    ok .


    alright.



    no.
  • KagaKaga
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    edited February 23, 2017
    Arjune wrote: »
    yeah I'm sure you wouldn't be upset at all if only humans and giants could get that title. it would be completely fair for only 2 of the 3 races to be able to solo the hardest content in the game because the title from it is "crappy"

    ok .


    alright.



    no.

    Uhm.. yes I wouldn't? I will be honest here. The only reason I complain about elves is because they have less advantage that giants and humans.
    I already told you on my first post, I would gladly be a giant and sacrifice the "crappy" title anytime.

    Oh speaking of "unfairness", we elves are already immune to that so I wouldn't really care.
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  • ArjuneArjune
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    edited February 23, 2017
    why not make a giant then? they flood us with enough ap and rebith pots and training events you could catch up with your elf fairly fast

    It's not our fault Devcat / KR Nexon is neglecting elves. Why did people have to make this another elf QQ thread? I was all happy and now I'm annoyed
  • NeynaNeyna
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    edited February 23, 2017
    Arjune wrote: »
    yeah I'm sure you wouldn't be upset at all if only humans and giants could get that title. it would be completely fair for only 2 of the 3 races to be able to solo the hardest content in the game because the title from it is "crappy".

    I still haven't gotten Limit Breaker and I'm human.. This game is so laggy for me, I'm playing this game with literally AT LEAST 240+ ping. //irrelevant// but I had to bring this up because you mentioned "solo hardest content in the game (I know you're talking about the race, but Ping matters too for Phantasm)".
    But yeah.. kk ima stop derailing.

    Ps. I'd go for Giants if we ever get race change. Regardless if we have this "giant update" or not. Giants already have the advantages and since I'm only playing this game to deal damage now, Giants definitely can deal more than Human..
    Kaga
  • KagaKaga
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    Arjune wrote: »
    why not make a giant then? they flood us with enough ap and rebith pots and training events you could catch up with your elf fairly fast

    It's not our fault Devcat / KR Nexon is neglecting elves. Why did people have to make this another elf QQ thread? I was all happy and now I'm annoyed

    Because I don't want to remake a character after my elf hit 27k total level, that should be common sense.
    It's actually DevCat's fault (never blamed nexon)
    Don't be annoyed then, you brought that up to yourself. I simply said elves should have gotten a revamp before giants.
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  • NeynaNeyna
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    Kaga wrote: »
    It's actually DevCat's fault (never blamed nexon)
    Don't be annoyed then, you brought that up to yourself. I simply said elves should have gotten a revamp before giants.

    Good for Giants for getting this. Let's hope they can solo Phantasm with this new update.
  • ArjuneArjune
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    edited February 23, 2017
    the moment people mentioned the word "elf" it became an elf qq thread. it always does

    anyways I'm sure elves will get something eventually... unless KR elves are just really OP and the only thing holding back elves here is the lag so they don't care about us :/
    Neyna wrote: »
    Ps. I'd go for Giants if we ever get race change. Regardless if we have this "giant update" or not. Giants already have the advantages and since I'm only playing this game to deal damage now, Giants definitely can deal more than Human..

    giants can;t really out damage humans atm because of CRK's and FH. idk what you're talking about. in fact I know people that abandoned their giants and made humans after the "human combat renovation". they weren't too far on the giant character and said "humans better, bye" ....it was sad. as if giant players aren't rare enough as it is
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  • KagaKaga
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    edited February 23, 2017
    Arjune wrote: »
    the moment people mentioned the word "elf" it became an elf qq thread. it always does

    anyways I'm sure elves will get something eventually... unless KR elves are just really OP and the only thing holding back elves here is the lag so they don't care about us :/

    Hopefully. Since only thing elves are doing in KR is investing heavly on magnum spam or puppetry (and they have no lag)
  • NeynaNeyna
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    edited February 23, 2017
    Arjune wrote: »
    giants can;t really out damage humans atm because of CRK's and FH. idk what you're talking about. in fact I know people that abandoned their giants and made humans after the "human combat renovation". they weren't too far on the giant character and said "humans better, bye" ....it was sad. as if giant players aren't rare enough as it is

    People that you know aren't lagging right? I don't even use CRKs, and I main fighter. I don't use FH, except ONLY on Clobber (which I am willing to lose my Festia wings + FH to go Giant) But like I said,
    I don't really play this game anymore aside from Festia's Clobbermeister "for damages", spending time with my friend(s) and Drop Kick damage testing rarely. I'm still waiting for fighter revamp if we will ever get any.

    Because overall, Giants get 10% bonus damage in Chain Mastery and other stuff - fighter/combat related - which helps me with Drop Kick Damage + Smash.
    I don't use Crks and FH in missions anymore, if anything, I use gunner. Else I crisis+ act 4 for my fiance to Blaze ez.

    Kaga
  • ArjuneArjune
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    edited February 23, 2017
    that would be like if I only used throwing attack and then said humans and elves are way way better than giants. if you're not even using the skills that makes them OP then of course you're going to think you're weaker. Humans are overall the best at everything atm. I used to say they were really balanced, until the FH, CRK, and bash thing came along
  • NeynaNeyna
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    edited February 23, 2017
    Arjune wrote: »
    that would be like if I only used throwing attack and then said humans and elves are way way better than giants. if you're not even using the skills that makes them OP then of course you're going to think you're weaker. Humans are overall the best at everything atm. I used to say they were really balanced, until the FH, CRK, and bash thing came along

    I never said humans are bad nor is my character weak. I'm blaming my ping that I can't play this game properly. I don't care if FH gets nerfed, it won't have anything to do with me.
    I am not even using FH and I am able to clear/help in some end game contents.
    Even in MA, I rely on fighter in there too (if I'm going in solo) + sometimes FH with my knuckles if anything happens. FH just makes it faster, but that's something I hardly use. I can't final hit properly with my ping too.

    Everyone is playing the game differently, I just choose to not follow the mainstream and the "op" skills. I don't see a point too if @Kaga can Blaze through things easily.. (I don't see a reason why he is complaining about elves needing revamp when his blaze is already op. Aside from people saying Blaze sucks, I guess Blaze needs a buff too).

    Let's not derail this anymore..
    Kaga
  • ArjuneArjune
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    there's nothing wrong with blaze. Giants / elves are great with magic too. I thought this was about combat/melee which humans are now far superior at. There's not really a way to derail this thread at this point. it was about the giant update that is still "coming soon" so the topic pretty much stalemated for now
  • NeynaNeyna
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    edited February 23, 2017
    Arjune wrote: »
    there's nothing wrong with blaze. Giants / elves are great with magic too. I thought this was about combat/melee which humans are now far superior at. There's not really a way to derail this thread at this point. it was about the giant update that is still "coming soon" so the topic pretty much stalemated for now
    I know there isn't anything wrong with Blaze - saying it needs buff was a sarcasm towards people being salty towards Blaze -

    Combat-wise IMO, giant's are way better. Humans are only good cus of FH and "CRKs" (bash etc). But Giants gets those % bonuses like more smash % and more max damage from combat mastery etc.
    And yeah, I don't know what updates are given to Giants yet, but I really do want to see them do something about elves. Humans are already fine the way they are. I'd love it more to see FH get nerf'd.
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  • IyasenuIyasenu
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    Oh my gosh, flight in Dun, Gairech, and Tir?

    Does this mean they're getting rid of all those lumpy, white, untextured parts of the map that are in plain sight!?
  • NilremNilrem
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    I would care more about this giant update if we had a race change feature.

    Starting a giant is not even viable at my level because my elf's investments go far beyond mere levels and AP.
  • ArjuneArjune
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    edited February 23, 2017
    Iyasenu wrote: »
    Oh my gosh, flight in Dun, Gairech, and Tir?

    Does this mean they're getting rid of all those lumpy, white, untextured parts of the map that are in plain sight!?

    I posted a couple screenshots on like page 5 :P the answer is no. I can show you the other 2 screenshots if you want

  • XiokunXiokun
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    edited February 23, 2017
    Also this is my two cents on the whole thing. For me being the Ultimate Most Strongest player isn't everything to me. I could probably be "stronger" as a human than a giant but I wouldn't be happy. I'd just be a carbon copy of everyone else. :/ Every skill r1, all my equips 3 lined and step 6'd, big fluffy wings, etc etc. But as a giant I feel genuinely prouder of myself and different and not someone who blends in with everyone else and fights the same exact way.

    Also; Giants have abs. Don't need arrow revolver. Don't need FH. I got abs. Humans got flub. <_< Period. *flexes*
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  • GretaGreta
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    I thought this thread is about changes with Vales, Giants, etc, but now i only see Giant QQ and Elf QQ fights.
  • IyasenuIyasenu
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    Arjune wrote: »
    Iyasenu wrote: »
    Oh my gosh, flight in Dun, Gairech, and Tir?

    Does this mean they're getting rid of all those lumpy, white, untextured parts of the map that are in plain sight!?

    I posted a couple screenshots on like page 5 :P the answer is no. I can show you the other 2 screenshots if you want

    Well, I see green grassy areas, instead of white lumps at least.
    But what are the other 2 screenshots? :o
  • Sphyra21Sphyra21
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    Arjune wrote: »
    Iyasenu wrote: »
    Oh my gosh, flight in Dun, Gairech, and Tir?

    Does this mean they're getting rid of all those lumpy, white, untextured parts of the map that are in plain sight!?

    I posted a couple screenshots on like page 5 :P the answer is no. I can show you the other 2 screenshots if you want


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    here ya go
    Spiritikajustshowing