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Updating Mabi Engine :D

ZetophiZetophi
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in Feedback and Suggestions
What would it take to Update Mabinogi's Engine, all clothing items and character models and the like to The Engine used in this Trailer.

It is a Trailer from Nexon's own engine... The Graphics were wonderful, but the concept of basically Vindi II to replace our wonderful free world of Mabi was cringe :(
However I think it would be cool to see the full game updated into this engine :D
Give us all sliders to play god with our characters and the like.
  1. Would you play mabi in a Updated World?23 votes
    1. HELL YES As long as it wasn't Arena.
       9% (2 votes)
    2. Yes
       13% (3 votes)
    3. I would have to see.
       30% (7 votes)
    4. No
       9% (2 votes)
    5. NOOOO KEEP THE ANIME CUTENESS :D
       39% (9 votes)

Comments

  • aef8234aef8234
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    I still honestly do not understand why they don't just move the game to a different engine, I mean most of data involved for the change are just variables.

    What items we have, their rolls, our skill ranks/AP, etc.

    It might be a gigantic undertaking in the sense of man-hours, but people have asked for this kind of thing the second the combat system removed skill loading which then made the hitbox problem all the more glaring.

    Seriously there was a gap a long time ago where this game could've been the best diablo-esque beat-em-up game, which was probably where Mabi2 was going to be, but now PoE has that spot.
  • KensamaofmariKensamaofmari
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    Probably because this isn't their bread and butter, but enough people still play it in its current state to keep it on the menu.
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    edited June 14, 2019
    Kensamaofmari wrote: »
    Probably because this isn't their bread and butter, but enough people still play it in its current state to keep it on the menu.

    The main culprit seems to be the spaghetti code Devcat left behind, which is still being decoded/untangled by the KR branch.
    Musicat
  • DanievictriaDanievictria
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    I'd only be onboard with this if the game stayed colorful and anime-style. None of that gritty, nasty, gray/brown wannabe realistic crap. A game that looks like it needs a bath is only aesthetically appropriate for horror games, dark fantasy, and shooters. Maybe I'm biased because I came up in the 16-bit era, when most of the biggest games of the time used bright, vivid colors and cartoonish art styles, but I never really got on board with the whole "the realer the better" graphics bandwagon and never got how making a game look dirtier made it somehow "gorgeous."

    So, sure, update the engine, upgrade the combat, smooth out the graphics, sharpen the textures...but keep Mabi colorful and anime-esque. Maybe bring in some crisp, clean cell shading. But please, don't dip the game in the same bag of dirt as half the AAA games from the past 16 years.
    THICCthighssavelivesMusicatSherriYangKoeteskpkion
  • ZetophiZetophi
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    Danievictria wrote: »
    I'd only be onboard with this if the game stayed colorful and anime-style. None of that gritty, nasty, gray/brown wannabe realistic crap. A game that looks like it needs a bath is only aesthetically appropriate for horror games, dark fantasy, and shooters. Maybe I'm biased because I came up in the 16-bit era, when most of the biggest games of the time used bright, vivid colors and cartoonish art styles, but I never really got on board with the whole "the realer the better" graphics bandwagon and never got how making a game look dirtier made it somehow "gorgeous."

    So, sure, update the engine, upgrade the combat, smooth out the graphics, sharpen the textures...but keep Mabi colorful and anime-esque. Maybe bring in some crisp, clean cell shading. But please, don't dip the game in the same bag of dirt as half the AAA games from the past 16 years.

    I agree with you :D
  • Donk3yDonk3y
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    edited July 5, 2019
    Darkpixie99 wrote: »
    Kensamaofmari wrote: »
    Probably because this isn't their bread and butter, but enough people still play it in its current state to keep it on the menu.

    The main culprit seems to be the spaghetti code Devcat left behind, which is still being decoded/untangled by the KR branch.

    There's an easy way to fix that: get Devcat back :/
    Danievictria wrote: »
    None of that gritty, nasty, gray/brown wannabe realistic crap.

    The sad part is that a lot of "medieval" themed fantasy games have that, while in the actual medieval times, people were wearing really colorful stuff, not the brown poopstained stuff that's depicted in movies and games xD
    SherriDanievictria
  • PlatinaKokiPlatinaKoki
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    edited July 5, 2019
    Zetophi wrote: »
    What would it take to Update Mabinogi's Engine, all clothing items and character models and the like to The Engine used in this Trailer.

    It is a Trailer from Nexon's own engine... The Graphics were wonderful, but the concept of basically Vindi II to replace our wonderful free world of Mabi was cringe :(
    However I think it would be cool to see the full game updated into this engine :D
    Give us all sliders to play god with our characters and the like.

    Why is it that every thread of yours asks for something that will never happen?
    Danievictria wrote: »
    I'd only be onboard with this if the game stayed colorful and anime-style. None of that gritty, nasty, gray/brown wannabe realistic crap. A game that looks like it needs a bath is only aesthetically appropriate for horror games, dark fantasy, and shooters. Maybe I'm biased because I came up in the 16-bit era, when most of the biggest games of the time used bright, vivid colors and cartoonish art styles, but I never really got on board with the whole "the realer the better" graphics bandwagon and never got how making a game look dirtier made it somehow "gorgeous."

    So, sure, update the engine, upgrade the combat, smooth out the graphics, sharpen the textures...but keep Mabi colorful and anime-esque. Maybe bring in some crisp, clean cell shading. But please, don't dip the game in the same bag of dirt as half the AAA games from the past 16 years.

    I wouldn't mind Mabi having Skyrim-level graphics.
  • DraechDraech
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    PlatinaKoki wrote: »
    I wouldn't mind Mabi having Skyrim-level graphics.

    I would. Look at that fence; that's not an improvement over what Mabi has.
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    Sherri
  • YangKoeteYangKoete
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    At least get rid of the absurd use of 2-D decals for objects. Please...

    I'm sure it'd be a lengthy process, but an "upgraded" engine with graphics would be nice.
  • nomigid15nomigid15
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    edited July 8, 2019
    Danievictria wrote: »
    I'd only be onboard with this if the game stayed colorful and anime-style. None of that gritty, nasty, gray/brown wannabe realistic crap. A game that looks like it needs a bath is only aesthetically appropriate for horror games, dark fantasy, and shooters. Maybe I'm biased because I came up in the 16-bit era, when most of the biggest games of the time used bright, vivid colors and cartoonish art styles, but I never really got on board with the whole "the realer the better" graphics bandwagon and never got how making a game look dirtier made it somehow "gorgeous."

    So, sure, update the engine, upgrade the combat, smooth out the graphics, sharpen the textures...but keep Mabi colorful and anime-esque. Maybe bring in some crisp, clean cell shading. But please, don't dip the game in the same bag of dirt as half the AAA games from the past 16 years.

    So, something like Xenoblade Chonicles 2 or the more recent Tales games?
    DanievictriaDonk3y
  • PlatinaKokiPlatinaKoki
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    edited July 7, 2019
    Draech wrote: »
    PlatinaKoki wrote: »
    I wouldn't mind Mabi having Skyrim-level graphics.

    I would. Look at that fence; that's not an improvement over what Mabi has.
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    8655-1-1360221376.jpg

    If that's your benchmark for quality, I'd find a different job, if I were you.
  • HelsaHelsa
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    Maybe have a radio button in Options under UI to choose either Mabinogi Classic or Mabinogi Ultra or whateverthell they wanna call it; then everybody wins. Whether they do this or not I'd still like characters to blink rather than having a doll-like blank stare.
    YangKoete
  • YangKoeteYangKoete
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    Helsa wrote: »
    Maybe have a radio button in Options under UI to choose either Mabinogi Classic or Mabinogi Ultra or whateverthell they wanna call it; then everybody wins. Whether they do this or not I'd still like characters to blink rather than having a doll-like blank stare.

    At least letting us look a bit more "Animated" works well. Blinking, some fluid movement on the tassels on weapons, etc.
  • Donk3yDonk3y
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    nomigid15 wrote: »
    Danievictria wrote: »
    I'd only be onboard with this if the game stayed colorful and anime-style. None of that gritty, nasty, gray/brown wannabe realistic crap. A game that looks like it needs a bath is only aesthetically appropriate for horror games, dark fantasy, and shooters. Maybe I'm biased because I came up in the 16-bit era, when most of the biggest games of the time used bright, vivid colors and cartoonish art styles, but I never really got on board with the whole "the realer the better" graphics bandwagon and never got how making a game look dirtier made it somehow "gorgeous."

    So, sure, update the engine, upgrade the combat, smooth out the graphics, sharpen the textures...but keep Mabi colorful and anime-esque. Maybe bring in some crisp, clean cell shading. But please, don't dip the game in the same bag of dirt as half the AAA games from the past 16 years.

    So, something like Xenoblade Chonicles 2 or the more recent Tales games?

    I kept saying that I want my nopons in this game :D