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The weekly server merge thread

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  • dra011dra011
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    Oh look this again oh look there is another thread that was made this week already about this stop making unnecessary clutter but in all seriousness nexon may see it like i do this won't bring in more people so why bother wasting money and time on it that can be used on other things.
  • XiokunXiokun
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    Celinus wrote: »
    The only reason i want a server merge nowadays is so these threads stop.

    Me too. People are just making server merge threads just to be 'that guy' who has to make it again. Any server merge thread in the general section should just be deleted. :/
    MikuV3Greta
  • FinityFinity
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    edited July 16, 2017
    People will stop making new thread if server merge thread are merged into one after they are posted.


    ....But what's the point of suggesting anyway? Do actual developers (people who have authority to make decisions about the game) even read them? We don't even get to talk to them, and CM/GMs can't answer questions because they either don't know or aren't allowed to answer them. This game has no communication whatsoever.
  • MikuV3MikuV3
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    This thread again............sigh
  • ArjuneArjune
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    they probably don't have a server strong enough to even run a merge.... Mari on its own crashed twice last week...
  • courtneyycourtneyy
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    Honestly, I'm glad there are more and more server merge threads showing up. From what I've seen in the past the more vocal you are about a problem the bigger your chances of getting a result or fix will be. I'm tired of having a dead market and seeing the same shops everyday as well as multiple bot shops now on Tarlach. I don't even have the desire to log in. I rarely complain publicly, but I'm going to join in on the complaint train about doing a server merge - We need one, yesterday.
    badnewsbarrettIyasenuLiyetaZeoTairikukapapa
  • CrimsọnCrimsọn
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    courtneyy wrote: »
    Honestly, I'm glad there are more and more server merge threads showing up. From what I've seen in the past the more vocal you are about a problem the bigger your chances of getting a result or fix will be. I'm tired of having a dead market and seeing the same shops everyday as well as multiple bot shops now on Tarlach. I don't even have the desire to log in. I rarely complain publicly, but I'm going to join in on the complaint train about doing a server merge - We need one, yesterday.

    The problem is we have been vocal about this for YEARS. I have come to the conclusion they are unable to do it for whatever reasons.
  • JoeyDee9JoeyDee9
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    Gaea wrote: »
    courtneyy wrote: »
    Honestly, I'm glad there are more and more server merge threads showing up. From what I've seen in the past the more vocal you are about a problem the bigger your chances of getting a result or fix will be. I'm tired of having a dead market and seeing the same shops everyday as well as multiple bot shops now on Tarlach. I don't even have the desire to log in. I rarely complain publicly, but I'm going to join in on the complaint train about doing a server merge - We need one, yesterday.

    The problem is we have been vocal about this for YEARS. I have come to the conclusion they are unable to do it for whatever reasons.

    And as years pass it only gets worse. Most new players still join Alexina because it just has a better population.
    badnewsbarrettFinity
  • YoorahYoorah
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    A server merge would not useful, nor desirable. Nexon hasn't done one because it wouldn't benefit the game enough to justify the cost of doing so (if there even is any benefit to begin with.)

    On Ruairi, the market/social channel is populated well enough to find a decent selection of shops, parties and cool new people to talk to. Other channels are more sparsely populated, but that can be a good thing for many activities. I think we have a good balance of being able to run into people when you want to, and having your own space when you don't.

    Then there's the issue of complexity to implement something like this. It would require many man-hours and resources that would have to be re-directed from something else. I think most would agree that we'd rather have Nexon spend time and effort improving the game and growing it, rather than on downsizing, which would be no more than a race to the bottom. (And the operational savings from having less game servers would be minuscule, if measurable at all. Server hosting infrastructure is pretty automated these days.)
    KageitoZarric
  • badnewsbarrettbadnewsbarrett
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    Yoorah wrote: »
    A server merge would not useful, nor desirable. Nexon hasn't done one because it wouldn't benefit the game enough to justify the cost of doing so (if there even is any benefit to begin with.)

    On Ruairi, the market/social channel is populated well enough to find a decent selection of shops, parties and cool new people to talk to. Other channels are more sparsely populated, but that can be a good thing for many activities. I think we have a good balance of being able to run into people when you want to, and having your own space when you don't.

    Then there's the issue of complexity to implement something like this. It would require many man-hours and resources that would have to be re-directed from something else. I think most would agree that we'd rather have Nexon spend time and effort improving the game and growing it, rather than on downsizing, which would be no more than a race to the bottom. (And the operational savings from having less game servers would be minuscule, if measurable at all. Server hosting infrastructure is pretty automated these days.)

    I mean it's clearly desirable to a lot of people if these threads are popping up every week and get pages of people agreeing it needs to be done.

    Also, Nexon already knows and has the complexity figured out if other servers did a merge just fine.
  • KageitoKageito
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    I'd go for a server merge if all of our characters and pets were deleted, that way we all start off fresh, fair and square. Reforges can be permanently removed, too. No need for them if we have tons of people to play with and help us, right? :^)
  • EllisyaEllisya
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    edited July 16, 2017
    For those who are keep saying "This thread again..."
    STOP CLICKING THIS AND POST YOUR THOUGHT THEN.
    Why you bother so much if you are tired of server merge thread, I really wonder.

    But yes, try bump more on Feedback section rather than posting new one on general section.
    ZeoFaithrendTairikukapapa
  • RheyRhey
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    We need a merge so the market will have more supplies of collab stuff. I'm still hunting 4 fate puppets for over 3 weeks noa. Even with a yui/100m offer no one is biting.

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  • CrimsọnCrimsọn
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    edited July 16, 2017
    Rhey wrote: »
    We need a merge so the market will have more supplies of collab stuff. I'm still hunting 4 fate puppets for over 3 weeks noa. Even with a yui/100m offer no one is biting.

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    Sorry pal, when I got my Yui it cost me an arm and a leg. I vowed I would never sell my Yui for ANYTHING. She is just too rare now. That might change when they release the new support puppets though. But even then, I would never EVER give up my Yui. She will forever become increasingly special and rare.

    -pat pat-
  • FaithrendFaithrend
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    If your so tired of server merge threads stop reading them? There not effecting you at all people are trying to make a change to better the game and people are not going to stop until action is taken so you complaing is the real annoying thing not the threads
  • RheyRhey
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    Gaea wrote: »
    Rhey wrote: »
    We need a merge so the market will have more supplies of collab stuff. I'm still hunting 4 fate puppets for over 3 weeks noa. Even with a yui/100m offer no one is biting.

    reaction-Dr-Zoidberg.gif

    Sorry pal, when I got my Yui it cost me an arm and a leg. I vowed I would never sell my Yui for ANYTHING. She is just too rare now. That might change when they release the new support puppets though. But even then, I would never EVER give up my Yui. She will forever become increasingly special and rare.

    -pat pat-

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    B-Bu-But I got 4 of em so...I'm okay with it. At least it'll net me 3/4 of the fate support set. Hopefully someone will bite on that 100m bait 4 the last one.

  • CrimsọnCrimsọn
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    Rhey wrote: »
    Gaea wrote: »
    Rhey wrote: »
    We need a merge so the market will have more supplies of collab stuff. I'm still hunting 4 fate puppets for over 3 weeks noa. Even with a yui/100m offer no one is biting.

    reaction-Dr-Zoidberg.gif

    Sorry pal, when I got my Yui it cost me an arm and a leg. I vowed I would never sell my Yui for ANYTHING. She is just too rare now. That might change when they release the new support puppets though. But even then, I would never EVER give up my Yui. She will forever become increasingly special and rare.

    -pat pat-

    Deo8Hw.gif

    B-Bu-But I got 4 of em so...I'm okay with it. At least it'll net me 3/4 of the fate support set. Hopefully someone will bite on that 100m bait 4 the last one.
    Rhey wrote: »
    Gaea wrote: »
    Rhey wrote: »
    We need a merge so the market will have more supplies of collab stuff. I'm still hunting 4 fate puppets for over 3 weeks noa. Even with a yui/100m offer no one is biting.

    reaction-Dr-Zoidberg.gif

    Sorry pal, when I got my Yui it cost me an arm and a leg. I vowed I would never sell my Yui for ANYTHING. She is just too rare now. That might change when they release the new support puppets though. But even then, I would never EVER give up my Yui. She will forever become increasingly special and rare.

    -pat pat-

    Deo8Hw.gif

    B-Bu-But I got 4 of em so...I'm okay with it. At least it'll net me 3/4 of the fate support set. Hopefully someone will bite on that 100m bait 4 the last one.

    ATATATA.gif~c200
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
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    Hey what the heck, theres only supposed to be one of these a week, and i posted one already.
  • RheyRhey
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    Spy wrote: »
    Hey what the heck, theres only supposed to be one of these a week, and i posted one already.

    There was a new rule. 2 per week is allowed now.
    [Deleted User]
  • ZarricZarric
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    I'm pretty much on the wagon with the NO server merges users. While people whine that we need it and post threads X amount of times a month, I don't think we need it really. Sure, you yes to merges lul people whine but there's an at least an equal amount of people or even more (while its not openly voiced here or in other places) that don't want a merge. It's never been a good ideal in most cases that I've read, and there are issues with it, majority being the names and certain once in a life time event things such as seal stones. That and merging servers often means that the game is dying, which it isn't like some believe to be happening.

    Having all 4 servers merged into a single server will hurt the game a lot more than being as it is now. It's bad enough we have issues with the service/servers as is with 4 servers, and merging certain servers and any other server together will be a major mistake. The lag issues are a big deal and over-crowding will be an issue. For instance as of this moment, looking at the chart on the wiki Alexina's market ch is 1 by the obvious looks. It's stated to be 80% full. Now lets theoretically take Alexina and merge it with Ruairi or Tarlach. You now have a market channel that has 110%~120% fullness, thus the need to split the market into 2 channels at a minimum. Overall population is at 29%~32%, but the lag will be an issue for said theoretically merged server.
    ADDING channels will not solve that issue either, so the result will be a forced split for that. Next is the economy of said theoretically merged server, which will be messed up for awhile. Both servers have vast differences in price for each item and the middle price will not work right away, and users that had cheaper deals one day will then be faced with higher prices because of the merge. Sure maybe it'll be better eventually but the immediate effect on the economy will be quite obvious, and it will be painful for most.
    YoorahDanievictria