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Closed Stricter Blacklisting and changes to this function
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Of course people are accountable for their actions at any age as well, but at times, an adult isn't always going to be there to tell them to stop. I am going to admit right now, I have read a variety of your threads before this one, and from my understanding, at times you can be quite delusional... It's really alarming and concerning... Now, again, this is just from my point of view and if you get offended, I'm sorry. As Hardmuscle has stated- that how did people deal with bullies before the internet? Where I do agree that any sort of bullying is NOT okay as I have been victim to it in my life, there comes a point and time that if you're to a certain age and a kid comes to your FACE, and says a nasty thing to you, you're going to need to understand that if you're an adult, you know that you have that maturity over them, and that a kid has a lot of growing up to do. Kids are of course influenced by many many things, by peers, what ever home life they may have, or just generally don't care.
An example of this would be my past with a player who did in fact get banned for misuse of the game, harassment and hacking. I even have notes from him yet, but as a JOKE. When you allow yourself to just be stronger than that KID that is bullying you, to make it a joke, you've helped yourself so much. As I said, I've seen some of your other posts... To assume that a kid is controlling a server, or a staff of a game is asinine, and you probably just need to move on... Just like any normal person.
As I try to reach out to you- I want you to know, that I have never met you before or seen you in public before. I have also never met your opposing parties that you have so mentioned, or other people have in your threads. I also do try and understand and help. So before you assume I am taking any sides either, that I do feel that you need to move on with your life... It does suck that it happens in a game you really do enjoy, but if something like this is getting out of hand over someone who is I assume a great deal younger than you, it's time to be a grown up, and I'm trying to be blunt, but not so tough at the same time, and this is a very delicate situation, I am sure.
I also do not wish to contact you outside of this, either. I've gathered information for a few days, and I don't think after this, you will even hear me out, or really any one else... If you are sensitive, then fine. I do get it, I really do. However- if this person isn't taken care of, then it probably isn't as serious as you really do thing, and I almost feel sorry... As I said, the person, the KID who harassed me is banned now, for good, and for multiple reasons, not just harassment, as well. I am not saying that this person who pesters you needs to have several reasons to get banned, but you need hard evidence. What ever the staff does to finally contact this person, via email or tickets, it is not their right to discuss that with you, either. It has always been that way, and even I have sent in tickets over bad apples, and nowhere in their job does it say we need to know what actions are taken place.
You may not believe it, but the staff does take harassment seriously, whether you want to listen to me or not. They do what they can, to the best of their abilities to take care of it and I have personally seen this. Really. If that doesn't happen to this person, then it probably isn't something they can do alone, or that it isn't really backed up by enough "proof"...
If you're going to take legal action, that is totally okay too... But please understand, that after gathering information from other threads and other places, any legal offical will probably not take this seriously as I am sure you are an adult, and this can easily be passed by, by just listening to Hardmuscle and I.... That it takes more than one person to stir the pot...
As stated previously I do not want to address these personal issues here. As I noticed several of my messages keep getting deleted so I have made sure to document everything with screenshots as proof of fowl actions towards me. Deleting harassing messages is like sweeping it under a rug to empower bullies to keep targeting me for more. Its time these bullies realize this has gone on for a very long time and its time they finally leave me and my friends alone for good with no communications towards us at all for any reason which also includes communications via their friends (which if hostility purposes is harassment and stalking).
I thank everyone here for their support on making changes to the blacklisting shstem to help make the game safer and more friendly. If you can think of anything to add please post here and I will update the first topic asap. I would like this topic to remain on the subject from now on so if you have something personal you would like to say outside is discussion you are welcome to pm me for a complete discussion.
How do you, personally, handle arguments in real life without a blacklisting feature???
Do you 'ignore' people .... or, do you employ long tirades and overreactions?
I actually said all of this aloud to myself in different wording or another.
Sure, that Blacklisting does make it easier for the person being pestered, but it just makes it too easy... It doesn't allow you to face your problems. The internet is completely different than in real life, where we have to face these problems ourself. We cannot ask someone to do it for us, or "report them".
I feel if someone has been a real issue, something would have been done by now...
From the view of all of this, you don't need to hear anything from anyone else, but to read the forums posted from this guy...
This topic is to discuss why we need better blacklist system and to get ideas how to improve it so lets keep the focus on that from this point forward
You need to remember who brought this discussion to the forum. It certainly wasn't me or anyone else who replied to your thread.
Only quoting this because I'm wondering what or who you're talking about? On who's behalf?
Also, Hardmuscle and I are not friends, personally. I don't know who he is other than brief posts from the forums. To be honest though, I admire his honesty, how forward he is, and he brings good points that I can agree with.
I would also like to mention that you yourself have put up a reputation on your own with your multiple forum threads...
I agree with the OP, blacklisting should be updated. There were countless times my sister would get threatening messages and it sometimes would take days for said person to get banned. Notes would keep coming, and she only was able to screenshot them to send them to GMs. This was back in the day, aswell.
I want to point out to you that the person you have been speaking of hasn't actually been able to play Mabinogi often for about 4 months. They were able to get on occasionally, but they were not able to stay online for long lengths of time. The last few weeks, they have actually disappeared off of the face of the Earth.
That said, as someone who has been a member and dear friend of this person since March, I did not know anything about this situation until I read your posts (as refered to by Anemki). This proves said person hasn't been 'harassing' you. Infact, the members have no idea that this is going on, and I don't think I'm going to tell them either.
The person you are referring too is against the spreading of drama. If you ever really knew this person, you should be able to point this out from their character.
Infact - how ironic - their username means "the mental state of peace or tranquility".
I am coming here on my behalf, and nobody else's... Anyone with eyes can understand even a little bit of your brain capacity, just by looking at your various threads...
I advise anyone communicating with me from now on to refrain from statements concerning my health or any claimed health conditions they think I might have as anything said that is untrue is harassment and discrimination towards a disabled person.
As for drama I will say sending friends and acquaintances to spam a person's thread with personal judgments and harassment kinda disproves your statement about the person not wanting drama. Believe me, I have known that person over a year (going on 2 now) so I know how they are like and how they react to situations that are unfavorable for them. A glimpse into my inbox of mabi will tell Nexon's admins the true nature of this person and their acquaintances towards me. They are welcome to look at it anytime as I do not delete any of my messages and have made screenshots of everything for my personal records. If they truly do not want drama then they (along with their friends) need to start acting peacefully towards myself and others especially in suggestions thread and recruitment. They need to be the bigger person here and walk away (do not contact me or respond to me at all, do not contact me in game, on forums, through pms, through notes, ect) and my 3rd party advocate will be helping me with any future situations involving hostility from this point onwards.
Now since we have spent the last page and a half talking about ethics and falsifying my mental health I think its time we get back to the real subject of modifying the blacklist to prevent communication in any form from individuals who have been put on the blacklist by another user (for whatever reason). The notes sytem should be included as part of the blacklist to prevent people from sending notes in game. Anyone else have any relevant discussions about the actual subject here?
Kettle cold kettle black... you get the idea...
These bots you see selling gold in Belv/Dunby are also just as simple to set up as the bots during old times that would farm kill foxes in Tir and mongoose in Qilla- they are set up with a special software, with a hotkey to spam chat, if you even watch their chat, it will toss a random letter/number, then their phrase/website. They are created with a macro that runs in the background of Mabi... They are perfectly SAFE to Blacklist, though it does get super annoying adding them to our ever growing Friends List. Just manually remove after a day or two, or let Walkerr decide he wants to kill them...
I'm disabled!