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  • HazurahHazurah
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    edited December 4, 2017
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    @asnscorpio ~ Are you unable to use Edit? (This currently exists in KR; if you didn't know).

    http://forums.mabinogi.nexon.net/discussion/13804/forgotten-name-server-change-is-in-kr/p1 :)
    Hazurah wrote: »
    Nexon mabinogi is the only game that i know that has huge problem for such simple thing
    it is fine if they prohibit you from using something vulgar but....

    "you cant change name if bla bla bla"
    "changing name will cause bla bla bla"
    "changing name takes process for bla bla bla"
    "changing name requires bla bla bla other than your money"

    i dont even find trouble changing name in old games such as Ragnarok Online

    "because it is complicated"

    well damn yourself for making everything in mabinogi complicated
    None of this is complicated. You're making assumptions; not assertions. You're forgetting the other titles they have where this was trialed and fully abused. No one officially said this won't come here eventually. ~ Constantly pestering the staff with cries about updates in KR is old and annoying. ~ If you want what KR is testing so bad you can't wait for it to come here (if and when it does pass their testing); go play in KR.

    The same applies to every other update KR releases or has released. ~ Constantly nagging the wrong people won't go anywhere. ~ (It's futile).
    RO is not relative to this discussion at all. ← (You're assuming all games are built the same way and use the same programming language**).

    **RO is a LUA based game. (LUA is a fairly restricted programming language in terms of feature sets). ~ **Mabinogi is built in C++. :expressionless:

    "none of this is complicated"

    *proceed with explaining how complicated the name changing is*

    oh irony

    yeah sure eventually it will come here, right?
    like for how long?
    another 3 years? 10 years? perhaps never?

    you are answering exactly the same with the person that when i ask about FMA crossover, they said, it will eventually here

    like hell i will listen such as bull
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited December 5, 2017
    @Hazurah
    Hazurah wrote: »
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    @asnscorpio ~ Are you unable to use Edit? (This currently exists in KR; if you didn't know).

    http://forums.mabinogi.nexon.net/discussion/13804/forgotten-name-server-change-is-in-kr/p1 :)
    Hazurah wrote: »
    Nexon mabinogi is the only game that i know that has huge problem for such simple thing
    it is fine if they prohibit you from using something vulgar but....

    "you cant change name if bla bla bla"
    "changing name will cause bla bla bla"
    "changing name takes process for bla bla bla"
    "changing name requires bla bla bla other than your money"

    i dont even find trouble changing name in old games such as Ragnarok Online

    "because it is complicated"

    well damn yourself for making everything in mabinogi complicated
    None of this is complicated. You're making assumptions; not assertions. You're forgetting the other titles they have where this was trialed and fully abused. No one officially said this won't come here eventually. ~ Constantly pestering the staff with cries about updates in KR is old and annoying. ~ If you want what KR is testing so bad you can't wait for it to come here (if and when it does pass their testing); go play in KR.

    The same applies to every other update KR releases or has released. ~ Constantly nagging the wrong people won't go anywhere. ~ (It's futile).
    RO is not relative to this discussion at all. ← (You're assuming all games are built the same way and use the same programming language**).

    **RO is a LUA based game. (LUA is a fairly restricted programming language in terms of feature sets). ~ **Mabinogi is built in C++. :expressionless:

    "none of this is complicated"

    *proceed with explaining how complicated the name changing is*

    oh irony

    yeah sure eventually it will come here, right?
    like for how long?
    another 3 years? 10 years? perhaps never?

    you are answering exactly the same with the person that when i ask about FMA crossover, they said, it will eventually here

    like hell i will listen such as bull
    You're under the wrong impression. → In terms of coding/programming; name changes are extremely simple.
    ~ but this community doesn't allow things to be simple; "it has to be as complex as possible" (abuse proof).
    No one officially said it won't come here eventually, .. and,.. no one officially said it will come here ever.
    If anyone has made this "complicated", it's the people who abused it in every other game scenario.
    When we talk about games here; we are talking about Nexon's games. ~ Not Gravity's games.

  • NeynaNeyna
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    edited December 5, 2017
    asnscorpio wrote: »
    Neyna wrote: »
    Kaga wrote: »
    To this day my marriage title is still glitched due to my wife having a name change in 2015.

    The GMs were also unable to fix it.

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    And we can't divorce, so I can't marry Neyna

    #pimp


    :trollface:

    More like Sharte can’t divorce even though she isn’t married ‘-‘

    Hopefully name change does come to this game but before that, I hope they fix the issues my fam and I are having.
    The GM that gave me the name change IS aware of the bugs/issues with the family titles & tree as well as that there are now two Neyna in the guild list.

    The solution was to divorce to fix the title issue, but we can’t even divorce in the first place. So they can’t do anything about it :<

    Not sure what the divorce has to do with the title if it's related to something else entirely? You created a family....which....is like a perma stay where you are in this tree line. So if you change things....you cannot? you need to leave and rejoin/remake because there are changes? Unless you cannot un-join what you joined?

    I got a name change fyi. We wanted to get remarried so it would say Sasochan Neyna's Husband instead of Sasochan Sharte's Husband. Sasochan cannot divorce "Sharte" because Sharte is Neyna, which was orginally Sharte.
    I can leave the family (if that's even possible), but it wouldn't change the marriage title for Sasochan.
    Look at Sasochan and Neyna's title and you can see what the issue is.

    ps. How can one of us leave if we can't even divorce? We are both the parent in the family tree. Even if I can, it wouldn't fix the marriage title.
    The GM is aware of this issue and couldn't assist us with it.
    They know that my old gears also say "Sharte-only item" and I can equip them without needing to trade unlock too.
    Kaga
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    Hazurah wrote: »
    confusing isnt it?, the most basic part of MMORPG does not exist in the game
    NAME CHANGING! HOW HARD IT CAN BE?

    Considering the fact that KR has a team dedicated to monitoring each request, as well as fraud checkers... Nexon NA is probably not in a state to release it at this time.
    If they had implemented it several years earlier, they would have had the additional human resources available to do so.
    Right now they aren't matching up in any popularity contests, so finding capable employees is probably going to be difficult, unless there's just one person who can handle the mountains of time it'll take.
    There's just so much that needs to be done to keep Mabinogi up to date and modern, that it probably seems like something Nexon KR or NA doesn't really think needs to be added immediately.
  • LeiliciaLeilicia
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    I asked a GM about this and the reasons why it's not done now and its because it is a lot of work, meaning they have to go through and change the name on friendslist, homesteads, guilds, families etc the list is pretty long. Mabi NA still have a while before we can get it implemented it seems.
  • NeynaNeyna
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    edited December 6, 2017
    Leilicia wrote: »
    I asked a GM about this and the reasons why it's not done now and its because it is a lot of work, meaning they have to go through and change the name on friendslist, homesteads, guilds, families etc the list is pretty long. Mabi NA still have a while before we can get it implemented it seems.

    Or try to fix my issues first and the things you mentioned, then they can decide if they want to allow players to get a name change #testsubject
    LeiliciaKaga
  • ThoraThora
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    edited January 2, 2018
    Please, don't argue with bad arguments like "is too complicated" .. "the friend list" .. "homestead.." .. "ign's only items" .. "easy exit for scammers".. (NO... there's something called CHARACTER ID / ACCOUNT ID which are trackable)...

    Seriously, in terms of programming, its literally the SIMPLIEST feature to implement... oh wait! its already been implemented in the game time ago!

    Yes..
    its already been implemented by nexon Korea long time ago, and it's been on for 17.500 17.800 Cash and working fine for their community

    http://mabinogi.nexon.com/ItemShop/product_detail.asp?product_no=449896

    There's literally no real argument for not implementing this, i even tried to open a ticket to request a name change, even saying that i was up to pay whatever it takes for it, and nexon's support center answers that the only way i can change my char's IGN is if the name is "offensive" or whatever... so guess what, my name IS offensive to me considering is not right for the gender of my character, i made a really bad mistake, so why not allow us to fix it by ourselves by spending money in NX? just like in REAL life, in most countries you can change your real name at least once (at least you can in my country !...)

    Lets be honest, a lot of people here feels a bit ashamed of what they picked up as IGN if they ever tried the game during childhood or something right?
    some of us are now capable of spend money to fix such silly mistakes, so why not Nexon America? what makes YOU so special over KR/JP/TW/CN servers?

    I could mention loads of other examples like the ability to gift nx items, present in most of the servers out there BUT NA's....
    anyways, lets bring this up and make our server a bit more up to date to the real gaming logic and fantasy life !

    PS: Sorry for my engrish.com, but you probably get the point of this poll lol
  • SherriSherri
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    If it's over in other servers, why not let us have it?
    Same with the mentioned 'Gifting NX'.
    Why does NA get this abuse?

    Everywhere else gets great treatment and features while we rot over here!
    It's the same in MapleStory too!
    Thora
  • ElfyElfy
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    edited January 14, 2018
    Nexon needs to implement a Name Change option for the NA server for Mabinogi.
    The Korean server already has it, why are we so behind?

    A lot of players have had their accounts for many years. Some of us thought we wouldn't take this game seriously at first, therefore created a silly name meant to be temporary.
    Others might have outgrown their username, or perhaps have a sensitive name that was meant to be endearing to a partner, friend, or family member that is no longer with us.

    I personally think the first name change should be free, as this has been a highly requested item for many years. But this is a purchaseable item in the Korean Nexon shop.
    $17.00 is completely reasonable for a name change item. Even if you have to limit how many name changes are available, one would be completely fine (for me personally).

    Direct Link to the Item Shop for Korean Nexon Server: mabinogi.nexon.com/ItemShop/product_list.asp

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  • ZeoZeo
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    I support, this should have been already implemented in NA Mabinogi looong time ago along with the server transfer thingy...

    As for three people (at that time) who voted no, I’d really like to know their reasoningwhy aside from using the obvious reason regarding scammers.
    Elfy
  • EkaterinEkaterin
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    Yes, please. I won't use it myself, but I would not object to seeing fewer "Legolas420" and "Kirito6969"-type character names.
    Elfy
  • KrissyPootelKrissyPootel
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    ive been wanting this for soo long to change my cringe name i made when i was just a kid.
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited January 16, 2018
    @Thora ~ In order for this to even be feasible, it'd have to be automated. If you graze over this topic even slightly, you won't find many people saying it can't be done. Not even myself. That's not the argument and this is not KR. This has been discussed for the past 10 years, many times.
  • CalemCalem
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    I think it'd be best to make it a "one time use" item. for situations like. people scamming someone then changing their name and doing it over and over and such.
  • Darkpixie99Darkpixie99
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    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    @Thora ~ In order for this to even be feasible, it'd have to be automated. If you graze over this topic even slightly, you won't find many people saying it can't be done. Not even myself. That's not the argument and this is not KR. This has been discussed for the past 10 years, many times.

    Which was exactly my point when I said this:
    Hazurah wrote: »
    confusing isnt it?, the most basic part of MMORPG does not exist in the game
    NAME CHANGING! HOW HARD IT CAN BE?

    Considering the fact that KR has a team dedicated to monitoring each request, as well as fraud checkers... Nexon NA is probably not in a state to release it at this time.
    If they had implemented it several years earlier, they would have had the additional human resources available to do so.
    Right now they aren't matching up in any popularity contests, so finding capable employees is probably going to be difficult, unless there's just one person who can handle the mountains of time it'll take.
    There's just so much that needs to be done to keep Mabinogi up to date and modern, that it probably seems like something Nexon KR or NA doesn't really think needs to be added immediately.

    The fact that it's relatively easy for KR to do this with multiple teams for different things means that it's not impossible.
    Rather, it's more difficult for NA to do this, simply because they aren't as strict, or public on community fraud with an entire team dedicated to it.
    (IE- KR's Wall of Shame)
    Instead, NA likely just uses the GMs and any other members on the technical side who communicate with the instigators and reporters via emails.
    This means that any player who spends $10-$30 on a name change after being rude, profane, or scammy, will still be out there with a different name, but the investigation may take longer with a shorter staff than KR has. (Even with the 30 day limit.)
    KR has naming rules in place that could work here, but only if NA actually had enough people available to fraud check and review.
    Product Link and KR summary of Service:
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    Hardmuscle
  • ThoraThora
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    edited January 22, 2018
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    @Thora ~ In order for this to even be feasible, it'd have to be automated. If you graze over this topic even slightly, you won't find many people saying it can't be done. Not even myself. That's not the argument and this is not KR. This has been discussed for the past 10 years, many times.

    Which was exactly my point when I said this:
    Hazurah wrote: »
    confusing isnt it?, the most basic part of MMORPG does not exist in the game
    NAME CHANGING! HOW HARD IT CAN BE?

    Considering the fact that KR has a team dedicated to monitoring each request, as well as fraud checkers... Nexon NA is probably not in a state to release it at this time.
    If they had implemented it several years earlier, they would have had the additional human resources available to do so.
    Right now they aren't matching up in any popularity contests, so finding capable employees is probably going to be difficult, unless there's just one person who can handle the mountains of time it'll take.
    There's just so much that needs to be done to keep Mabinogi up to date and modern, that it probably seems like something Nexon KR or NA doesn't really think needs to be added immediately.

    The fact that it's relatively easy for KR to do this with multiple teams for different things means that it's not impossible.
    Rather, it's more difficult for NA to do this, simply because they aren't as strict, or public on community fraud with an entire team dedicated to it.
    (IE- Wall of ShameKR's)
    Instead, NA likely just uses the GMs and any other members on the technical side who communicate with the instigators and reporters via emails.
    This means that any player who spends $10-$30 on a name change after being rude, profane, or scammy, will still be out there with a different name, but the investigation may take longer with a shorter staff than KR has. (Even with the 30 day limit.)
    KR has naming rules in place that could work here, but only if NA actually had enough people available to fraud check and review.
    Product Link and KR summary of Service:
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    So... the argument is that Nexon NA isn't ready / doesn't have the necessary team for monitoring the name changes and such.... right?..
    Then why do they have the what it takes for NA's MapleStory?... if i remember well, this was an event item from the "V Shop" which was in game! you honestly think they tried to investigate every name change on a massive server event? hmmm o.O
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    Sherri
  • HardmuscleHardmuscle
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    edited January 22, 2018
    @Thora
    Thora wrote: »
    Then why do they have the what it takes for NA's MapleStory?
    MapleStory's budget and Mabinogi's budget are not combined, nor are they developed by the same teams (they have completely separate NA employees too). Although recently bought up by Nexon NA (as the global development team), MapleStory was originally developed by Wizet in South Korea. Mabinogi is still developed and managed by devCAT, an entirely different studio in South Korea. MapleStory has a population of more than 6 million players, on a slow day.

    It's not only about lacking the manpower or a need for monitoring name changes. There's also possible side effects to having your name changed in Mabinogi. These are known of because of actions taken by GMs on a personal basis. ~ For example: (Pay close attention to the names over their heads on the following linked post; from this thread). http://forums.mabinogi.nexon.net/discussion/comment/62857/#Comment_62857


  • ThoraThora
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    edited March 3, 2018
    Hardmuscle wrote: »
    @Thora
    Thora wrote: »
    Then why do they have the what it takes for NA's MapleStory?
    There's also possible side effects to having your name changed in Mabinogi. These are known of because of actions taken by GMs on a personal basis. ~ For example: (Pay close attention to the names over their heads on the following linked post; from this thread). http://forums.mabinogi.nexon.net/discussion/comment/62857/#Comment_62857

    i know such side effects, that's because they are married and have a faimily tree too, so...

    there's few requirements in mabi KR to being able to use the name change item, and you are just giving an example of name change in NA Mabinogi back in 2015, altho its glitchy, thats because neither the GM or player took the neccesary time to fullfit the name change requirements... So:
    -im not Guild subscribed / i can quit for name change anyways...
    -im not married
    -im not part of a family tree
    -im not holding items in the housing nor have a house
    -i could simply clean my buddy list....
    -im not married
    -im not carrying any exclusive item?
    -i don't care for homesteads, honestly...

    Then... Why... why couldn't us, the ones that fit in with the requirements to name change, pay for it?... i really don't understand yet why would that be so hard, if its already been done in the past and its currently being done on oversea versions of mabinogi lol

    also, hey nexon! any update on this? how many years we are going to wait till a good service?
    i have spent a lot of money in my account, im not even asking something that complicated you know :/
  • TsumikkiTsumikki
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    edited April 6, 2018
    I'm playing like a ninja all alone because I hate my main's ign. I wish there was a way to change the name... I'd pay for it handsomely. ;_;
    People change, some things become embarrassing, but the characters are geared towards maining one-three ones. What do you think?
  • THICCthighssavelivesTHICCthighssavelives
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    $50 per name change in NA. How badly do you want it?