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This is a massive nerf that basically pushes humans further into brioslave territory than they already are. They have NOTHING ELSE that's comparable dps wise to elves or giants.
I play on all characters, but mostly human and a human player relying on FH for Single Target DPS and not as Brio/trash mob clearing is bad.
So, what would be the comparable DPS? Nothing realistically, there is no absolute way to outdps an Elf's Magnum Shot when they know timings for 100% hits as fast as possible. Human Bash and FH already pales in comparison to Giant Smash >2x Bash combo. Humans have always been the jack of all trades, master of none.
FH against bosses w/ reduced prot is and always should be used with Control Bars.
So, what do I use for Single target? Considering I mostly solo play, I use lance charge and chain impale whenever I can't cbar FH for "eznogi ha press 1 button and not care," and when I'm pressed on time I'd rather use impale/LC. Currently I do 100k crit LC's, r6, no divine lance, no DM, no SS, no RI and I do not have an echo stone w/ a [lance weapon] lance charge damage roll yet. And for Impales, I do 90k crits, r6, no celtic chain, no reforged chain blade, no DM, no SS, no RI.
My Ele FH is 30k on crits. And the above Lance Charge/Impales are non ele. So.
Also, no Fierce/Avenger/Creepy Haunted accs. Bring Back Creepy Haunted.
Edit:
I also use Firebolt from time to time and those are 40~50k's.
Hellkaizer wrote: »This is a massive nerf that basically pushes humans further into brioslave territory than they already are. They have NOTHING ELSE that's comparable dps wise to elves or giants.
I play on all characters, but mostly human and a human player relying on FH for Single Target DPS and not as Brio/trash mob clearing is bad.
So, what would be the comparable DPS? Nothing realistically, there is no absolute way to outdps an Elf's Magnum Shot when they know timings for 100% hits as fast as possible. Human Bash and FH already pales in comparison to Giant Smash >2x Bash combo. Humans have always been the jack of all trades, master of none.
FH against bosses w/ reduced prot is and always should be used with Control Bars.
So, what do I use for Single target? Considering I mostly solo play, I use lance charge and chain impale whenever I can't cbar FH for "eznogi ha press 1 button and not care," and when I'm pressed on time I'd rather use impale/LC. Currently I do 100k crit LC's, r6, no divine lance, no DM, no SS, no RI and I do not have an echo stone w/ a [lance weapon] lance charge damage roll yet. And for Impales, I do 90k crits, r6, no celtic chain, no reforged chain blade, no DM, no SS, no RI.
My Ele FH is 30k on crits. And the above Lance Charge/Impales are non ele. So.
Also, no Fierce/Avenger/Creepy Haunted accs. Bring Back Creepy Haunted.
Edit:
I also use Firebolt from time to time and those are 40~50k's.
My elf is close to launching 100k magnum shots without ele. She's also 5k total. Anything humans can do elves or giants can do better. So go on and tell me, what compares to elf or giant dps on a human, what can humans bring to endgame party play? Lance charge isn't sustainable dps and neither is ss+impale, firebolt is also niche.
Elves use chain and magic better, giants use lances better. Try to answer the question. "What can humans actually do to keep up with elf and giant dps or what can they do better than elf or giant". At endgame they legitimately have final hit, everything else the other two races do better.
I think you're forgetting that these are numbers, the amount of people actually at the point that their giant/elf is better than most try hard humans is very, very small. I'd even bet that the amount of people with dan 3 mag is minuscule, after 370 ish attempts I finally got it but it was one of the most frustrating things I've ever done in game.
