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Nice you didn't even respond to thier post of how chains are outsped by other talents or lutes part about the same thingEDIT2: second the example you gave was terrible.Act 7 is an AoE attack while impale is a single target attack, also you weren't showing Act 7s full potential as it can hit twice.
I was comparing the strongest multipliers of both talents. Even If U wanna do aoe vs aoe chainz still comes out on top as act 7 haz checks and all my investment 2 make it gud will still be gutted against a 5k clean cardinal since chainz isn't really checked/balance enuf @ this point in time.
1. KR already did some balance stuffs for chain during test server to main server update.
2. If you want to see more "Elf needs buff" thread, then let the chain nerf happen.
3. I haven't seen a single thread about "Nerf chain" on other servers (other region)
4. Chain isn't really broken. It's just other skill sets that needs buff, rather than nerfing chain.
5. Enough of these thread, if you really want developers do something about it, then post it on Feedback section with reasonable/logical explaination.
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Might be because when I was training chains my dex is low and I didn’t use any related chain gears but... chain feels incredibly slow. Id much rather use kunai storm that can deal damage through waves than chain sweep. Kunai storm range 20 makes the AoE range similar to chain sweep. It’s also a pain to get dorcha each time before you’re about to do something. And having to normal hit high hp monster to gain dorcha, and risk getting hit back.
This remains true with higher dex as well, having to farm dorcha and the very long drawn out animations for chain make it significantly slower than other options in many situations, especially when spamming missions such as battle for tail 2 or conflict where you don't have much of a chance to harvest dorcha, because even wearing special Eiren outfit with dorcha snatch master and level 20 dorcha leeched chain blade reforge is still only .95 dorcha per normal attack up from the basic .75 of having only rank 1 and no other boosts, which may seem like a fair bit but still gets burned through very quickly when you're using chain burst to maximize your damage output or anchor rush to get out of mob normal combos or close distance for impales.
Personally I feel like chain is balanced very well, despite it seeming as if the damage multipliers are very high compared to other skills, the restrictions on using those skills from dorcha being a limited resource mid combat and the slow execution balance them out quite well, it's sort of like magic if magic were done correctly and had damage proportional to it's loading and execution time, big burst damage but a little bit on the slow side.
While I don't agree chain needs nerfed, I do believe many other skillsets could use touchups. Fighter and Alchemy being two of mabinogi's darkest black sheep of skillsets are going to need a lot of work especially as both are borderline unusable in all but early game generation quests due to content rebalances that have happened over the years as they've gone neglected. Along with many bug fixes such as not being able to use a loaded and ready water cannon until the splash animation on the previous monster hit has finished (this happens even without vivace to speed up loading) and fighter's various position glitching issues.
I feel like a more productive use of the bit of official nexon attention we can muster by posting on the forums would be better spent asking for bug fixes and rebalancing the weaker skillsets that don't hold up anymore rather than complaining to nerf the functional things into the ground as someone of the opinion all skillsets should be viable to use at all game points to at least a moderate efficiency even if certain skillsets are more effective than others in specific situations so no player has to feel like his or her favorite skillset is "useless late game" or otherwise
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The reality of the situation is those people who live in other counties need to stop complaining about it. This is NA not EU - lag is imminent.
Obviously we know that. We didn't ask for lagless connection like NA players. All we want is some nerf (maybe a minute extra, or more points achievable)
Also saying that we need to stop complaining is complete bs. Nexon welcomed EU/AU players. It's not like we are region locked and we are forcing ourself thru that to play this game.
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Hardmuscle wrote: »@Buffalos - I already spoke with Katherz about this and was told it would be looked on Monday (I also already reported it to the so-called VFM we apparently don't have or is off for the weekend too. You are not one so why are you addressing me?). If you'd like to go down with it, be my guest. Otherwise, it would be best for you to buy a new calendar and to mind your own business. The reply being argued about in this thread is the farthest thing from a denial of lag anyone can possibly get, and if Liyeta's problem had already been solved they would not have come here to moan about it again. Trolling me doesn't change what happened in this thread nor the clarity of it.
The reality of the situation is those people who live in other counties need to stop complaining about it. This is NA not EU - lag is imminent.
That's not considerate.
If the tests were made more lenient, then higher ping due to the increased distance would be less of an issue.
You probably couldn't make everyone happy, but it would at least be better for more.
And better than nothing changing.
now if you've still taken every step possible to reduce lag and still no dice and you live in a bad location, well you are just SOL. Yeah it sucks and its an all around terrible situation but theres not much you can do except voice your frustration but im sure people have already been doing that since dan revamp update, so it may or not may not happen, but I would guess NA nexon would put its NA customers first and well thats another can of worms entirely.This is the reality of the situation. This is a South Korean made game built around South Korean grade internet, and this one in particular is heavily delay-dependent when it comes to the 'challenging' stuff. You'll just need to learn how to work around it, or opt out of content entirely until someone over there decides to listen to their international audience.
congratulations now you know how fighters and alchemists feel.I just don't want other talents effort/req investments 2 be shat on without saying anything.
Chainz wasn't a thing when devkitty was selling powercreep 2 other talents back then to make em gud just 2 disrespect all those investments made b4 now.
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