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Closed Dan tests are unbalanced and unfair
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We both passed. However, when we went to talk to the Advancement Guide, we can't 'Advance the skill'.
It counted as us passing but it won't let us rank them up! So we both wasted a day!
WHAT GIVES?
You need to complete the test multiple times (and a few times with S or SS ranks depending on the exam level) before you can rank the skill again. For Dan 1 to 2 you need to complete the test two times and get an S grade at least twice, and Dan 2 to 3 requires two test completions, two S ranks, and two SS ranks. From what I've heard, for the Dan 2->3 test you can fill out the S rank line if you get an SS test (getting an SS rank fills both those counts), so you need to pass at least two exams for each rank you do. You can check your progress by clicking the skill's name in the skill list.
*many words considered foul by the general public*That's dumb.
And that's the dilemma many are saying is unfair. It is dumb to have a "pass" not grant any advancement EXP and effectively waste your test for the day.
It takes a minimum of 2 days under the current system to pass Dan 2 and Dan 3
Dan 1: Receive a Passing Grade.
Dan 2: Receive a Passing Grade x2
Receive Grade S or Higher x2
Dan 3: Receive a Passing Grade x2
Receive Grade S or Higher x2
Receive Grade SS or Higher x2
So, with that said, Unless you get an S rank on a Dan 2 Test, you will take 3+ days. Unless you get SS Rank on a Dan 3 Test, you will take 4+ days. I still say this is a much better trade-off when compared to the old system when you could only take the test once every 5 days, you HAD to be in a party of other people taking the test, and even then, only half of the participating party would pass based on who had higher scores.
It's not impossible. I've seen someone on Ruairi with the new ninja idle meaning they got shuriken charge to dan 3.
I think it just strongly relies on critical hits.
Except on the dan 1>2 test, unless you pass with an S rank score twice, you cannot advance. It doesn't matter how many times you pass with A. That's the glaring issue with the design.
Yes, I even said as such. It is also impossible to get Dan 3 without SS Rank as a passing grade. It makes sense that a higher grade is required with each successive rank. otherwise they would have some setup along the lines of:
Dan 1: Receive a Passing Grade x2
Dan 2: Receive a Passing Grade x5
Dan 3: Receive a Passing Grade x10
I think the current system is fair enough, as if you know what you are doing, you can go from no Dan Rank to Dan 3 in 5 days. A vast improvement over the old system.
Also since it's so hard people actually have to look to the community for help, ppl share tips etc, and there's generally more activity
Like for the gm update, nobody really talked about it since it was just so easy, it's just collecting seals and waiting.
I believe the main argument is that, for some of the tests, even if you know what you are doing, you are unable to pass the tests with a high rank due to mainly lag or critical hit chance.
For example the bolt magics require you to shoot bolts as quickly and as often as possible to score points. Due to latency, we can't charge the bolts quickly enough even if we are managing aggro well and otherwise doing everything correctly.
I did really want to get the puppet enchant and idle pose but I don't think I can get the necessary 12,000 points for SS in Rising Action just because there's a short delay in me pressing the hotkey and when the skill activates.
For firebolt you need to utilize extreme luck and everything you have.
Whereas for the smash test dan 3, my total level 500 alt can get 13k pts with a whole minute to spare. Talk about balanced.
Yeah I'm bitching about how i won't know if my firebolt damage earned me enough bonus points to pass the test until I actually finish the test. Would be nice to know ahead of time so that I can leave before I waste another day getting S rank when I need SS rank to get dan 3 firebolt. I already know how to pass with SS rank for firebolt (I just need one more SS rank pass to get dan 3) but i keep failing with 11.5k points because the bonus points range from 1-2k. 4 combo card seals is nothing when you can just do advancement tests on your alts.
"BUT YOU CAN JUST LEAVE THE EXAM BEFORE THE TIME LIM--" stop that. In the past three days I've had convenient lag spikes occur before the time expired that prevented me from leaving in a timely fashion. I shouldn't have to leave the mission with a low grade or face sitting around for a day because I "failed" to pass my exam with high marks. Make those fails actual fails and let me re-enter with another entrance fee.
It almost feels like shortening the timespan to obtain dan 3 from a matter of months to a matter of days is a mistake or something.