WolfandWolf

Greta wrote: »

Alchemistjk wrote: »

How do people make their items time be longer than 36 hours?

I KNOW RIGHT!? I thought i was seeing things too! It's weird how no one else mentioned this earlier before!

Seriously... Any ideas how they do that?

I went to the "help" button listed in the top right corner of the Auction house, and it said (under the Auction House Benefits) that if you also have housing you'll also get additional sale listing time. I guess that's what that is. So it's...kindof?...an update on service...?

Trythis wrote: »

WolfandWolf wrote: »

. . . . . . . . There isn't any way to see the name of the seller, is there?

That's a good thing no rich elites can play favorites and if someone is just using it for storage they won't be bothered about something they don't want sold, lastly I think you mean you want to bargian but I think they wanted to make something along those lines but without talking to anyone

A hot time event item from a few months ago is not worth 20mil; that's the only reason why I'm haggling. There are some really ridiculous prices. But I think you answered my question: they aren't placing the hot time item because they want to sell, they're using it as storage.

The seller certainly has the bulk of power in this auction house, and I only hope this does not lead to a worsened inflation. Don't misunderstand me, as a seller I do appreciate the fact that I won't be haggled for ridiculously low prices. But I am slightly concerned at the possible consequences.

Blissfulkill wrote: »

KawaiiEvee wrote: »

Blissfulkill wrote: »

Why should bids be canceled? All it does is inconvenience the seller over the fickle nature of the buyer. One doesn't simply "offer" to buy something, then back off because they found a cheaper item. That is rude, and an inconvenience to the bidding system. Which ideally, is what an automated system is suppose to prevent.

I suppose a compromise is a 2 minute cancellation period, but other than that, don't bid.

Also the problem on that is I didn't know how it worked at first and when I clicked to see what it did it auto took it and I started freaking, so I tried to see if the persons name was there but to no avail.... (don't ask how I didn't know even though it prompts, state of confusion ok..) So now my bid is going for 10m thing I don't even want and can't cancel it which I find really awful. Or it should at least display the persons name so I can talk to them about it.

Plus I'd be fine with people personally withdrawing their offer, its not like it didn't happen before this came out, so nothing new.

I do understand money being taken out before the purchase, so they can't be one of those people who offer but come back to you saying "Oh I don't have the money right now" which can be quite annoying sometimes... asking yourself why are they offering like 10m if they only have 3m. Most times I wait on them til they gather money though, unless its a new item that's really wanted/popular. Overall, love the new system, just a few fixes would make it greater and not so annoying to use.

Because withdrawing is a jerk move in both situations. The commonness of an impolite or immoral action doesn't excuse any one or group of individuals from the responsibility not to perform said action.

The difference here is even more clear, since it is an impromptu agreement to pay for it via an automatic system, not a simple exchange of messaging that can easily be reverted. (Which essentially seems akin to accepting someone's bid, requesting a meet up place, then getting there to be informed that the buyer has bought the item cheaper.)

I sympathize with you in this case, but why a 10 million gold item? If one wishes to test it, then I believe attempting on a lower priced item would be just as efficient, or an item someone wishes for. Although if you were testing the 9,999,999, then I appreciate it, and consider it unfortunate.

I would suggest for the game to implement a small period of time through which bids can be canceled.

Although looking at further info, it seems past bids can be saved. So perhaps I am wrong here. Perhaps for bidding, it can go to the previous bid, upwards of three times.

I'm sorry Bliss. I agree with you on a great many other things, and I hope that what I am going to say is not misinterpreted (because I do respect you), but I will have to disagree with you outright on this.

Buying and selling is an equivalent exchange. The seller has an item that they want to get rid of, and the buyer wants that item and will pay gold for it. The seller, in this case, can change their mind anytime, take back an item out of the auction house and re-implement it for a different bid range. The buyer, however, is not permitted to change their mind like the seller is. Right of the bat, you can see that this is not an equivalent exchange; one person has more power than the other.

Why is it unfair or a jerk move for the buyer to change their mind? The seller does not have exclusive rights to the buyer's money bags; that gold is the buyer's property, not the seller's. Nor does the seller have exclusive rights to sell item A; plenty of other people also have item A and have the right to sell it if they wish. There is always going to be competition in an economy, and you will always have to compete with others in both buying and selling items. It is the very heart of a free market. Insisting that it is not fair that you have to compete with people selling Item A for cheaper is like insisting that it is not fair that other people exist to compete against. Until the trade happens, a seller does not have any dibs on the buyer's money; it is the buyer's property until the trade actually happens.

A bid is not a promise, it is a proposal. It is not a guaranteed, it is a possibility.

My parents work at a firm that deals with bids; that's just how it is.

Arjune wrote: »

Nothing should be untradable, that's just stupid. the dressing room (and usually pets) don't allow untradable things to go into it. You think people want to fill their luxury bags / bank with untradable stuff?? and what if the event is their big chance to make a lot of gold to buy stuff they DO want?? They can't let abusers get way with ruining everything else for others. they need to find other ways to stop them. I already have a pair of white dominion wings from an old contest Sabina did that I can only keep in my bank. I'd prefer not to be stuck with 563767567 untradable items

This Festia thing is the only type of event I've heard of alts really abusing, though I heard Alexina has people abusing hot times really bad too. Don't punish all severs for Alexina's crimes. Hell I bet Conflict was nerfed because of Alexina too. I never see multi-client alts in Mari, and the one time I did it was a bunch of players in penguin robes just being funny... no abusable event was going at the time. Just someone having a joke

We don't have to make EVERY event item untradeable. But at the very least, since multiclienters love spamming instant events and their prizes are limited, we can make the top prizes for this event untradeable.

And I'm sure there must be a way to change the code to make it so untradeable items can be put into the dressing room. Wouldn't it be nice to put your Dominion Wings into the dressing room? More bank space~

I understand your concern. I myself sell event items I don't particularly like, and I did come back after years of not playing and bought a few event items from others that I liked but missed out on. But an event like this that's so dependent on how much of the population is spamming the roulette button...? It is a pretty viable solution in this case. It doesn't have to be for every event. But instant event server population roulettes are the most pressing in need of a change.

Sherri wrote: »

Rhey wrote: »

I wasn't around during the black_robed period tho. Is it more than just visual shenanigans?

Same here, can somebody explain it? c:

Yeah it's more than just a visual thing. I was around during the tent scare. Supposedly, if you logged in and saw your character black robed, it means that your character's data was permanently corrupted (the black robe was because the game couldn't make sense of the corrupted data and therefore could no longer process your appearance/clothes).

Basically, you would not be able to access that character. At all. Forever. You would have to delete them and start over. Hence why it was so scary.

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