Why do businessmen seek to 'ask' plunderers how much they need prior to issuing a 'permit' to operate? Why do 'oil' companies and others all work for these plunderers and openly extort this 'fee' on their behalf prior to its delivery to the public? Are they paid a wage to so do, or are they all afraid? Why not deliver it honestly at their nett retail price to the community, and let the extortionist deal with each member of the community directly, for this way those as me that are not weak minded will tell the extortionist to 'get lost.'
-Quoted from http://www.the-testament-of-truth.co.uk/truth/web/other6.htm#page_93
(Regarding people quitting Mabi) Was it really because of prices ? Not because perhaps their friends disappeared ? Perhaps they got banned for some arbitrarily unreasonable length of time for a minor reason ? They got «jabbed» and died the next day ? Surely «people quitting» must be more than just so-called sky-high prices. I don't think I have ever «quit» some game because of sky-high prices (if anything, if there was that much so-called «money» moving around in the «economy» then, I would actually be taking advantage of that abundance of supply in order to make myself rich, Rich, RICH!!! RICH, I TELL YOU ! /cAckLeS IF I were «active» in such a game anyway... I mean, gee, rather than historically only having been able to get maybe 10K for a stack of Holy Waters, I mean, if I am now getting 120K or even more per stack, why wouldn't I take advantagew of that, especially if everyone else is «too lazy» to supply such easy-to-obtain goods to the market themselves ? MORE «profits» for ME such to the point where I end up with a literal MONOPOLY when nobody else is willing to sell and ALL without «manipulating» the market into such a MONOPOLY ! =O).Momma_Sophie wrote: »A lot of people quit due to these rocketing prices for materials.
Sounds like I'm on the right side, then. The side of people who know how to run a business well enough to keep a "dead" game going for 13 years.
But how would YOU solve the population problems in Alexina? Tell us. Because at this point we are already aware of the consequences but at the same time we just want to rip band-aid off.
Alright, this is where we have the actual conversation. We've already started to see KR's director make moves towards raising ease of gameplay, which covers my central point regarding economic prosperity:
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Truth, but, don't forget, she believes in the CIA-propaganda, and, thus, you aren't going to convince her otherwise (/still continues to pretend that I don't notice Helsa being anywhere in, around, nor near the room... *whistles innocently*).Momma_Sophie wrote: »No, we don't. Still no evidence shown. Repeating yourselves over and over isn't evidence, Helsa.We now know that Nexon will merge if conditions are met. Alexina is moving to those conditions. Therefore a merge is inevitable.
The actual reasoning given by Staff was that they merged the original 3 to balance server population, not because servers were "dying." If the servers were "Dead," then there would be no/little net increase in overall population from the merge. This is just simple math at this point.
Like, how the server is now SO crowded, that we end up with threads that say : «WE NEED MORE SERVERS!!!» ? =pLate to the party but just merge the servers already, I'm tired of these back and forth debates. Y'all will eventually find something else to complain about after it happens anyway.
Time for me to momentarily be «that debunker» and mention that one can give such «false-impressions» by taking a screen-shot from an unpopulated channel then channel-hopping to a populated channel in order to «deep-fake» (even more sophisticated than Photo-Shop) such an image-example. Ouh, speaking of Deep-Fakes, let's check out A.I. ability to Deep-Fake...It helps newer players catch up with older or more higher level/developed players in general for the game itself. Which is awesome - IF they actually start on Alexina to do so and stay there.
The only way something like that could help is if there was more incentive to join and STAY on Alexina, which unfortunately right now there is not.
Then you get this:
So, Sophie, how do you stop that?
What is this about Steam having goodies rather than other methods of login!? O_Obro, literally me, i threw away my main steam account because i'm not allowed to use my main anymore but it's gonna get tiring and i'll end up abandoning the game because its bothersome to not have my steam goodies while playing mabi
Re : Inflation-CausesQuestion:
If inflation happens to happen after a merge, what is causing it and why does it happen in the first place? a server merge doesn't simply inflate prices on its own and out of the blue, it doesnt make any sense on its own.
Regarding inflation: You can argue about the lack of space for it, but inflation happens everywhere not just on the other players that isnt you, you can always make some gold by selling some holy water and crafting your own things and take advantage of that situation in making money.
Regarding finding parties: if finding parties of your mid to low tier is difficult for you, then what makes it when youre in Alexina? theres a bigger population of older players than newer ones in that server and theres far far less players around your mid to low tier levels to join you, in this point your making the merge rather works in favor of fixing this issue.
Also for socializing: this in an mmorpg, the entire experience is related to also socializing and working with others to complete quests and missions, not to mention all the social features this game is added through gestures and minigames and what not.
Momma_Sophie wrote: »To Julie:-final snip due to characters too long error message (hopefully the last snipping needed)-are you referring that to me? because it appears youre accusing me of saying things i never said. im also not your babysitter you can look at the rules yourself.Momma_Sophie wrote: »Well, that's a straight up lie, if I've ever seen one. Drop off your own server to force a merge to happen, on basis of anyone not agreeing being "antisocial?" Totally not iron fisted bullying tactics.literally nobody is talking about forcing anyone do anything social, and as far as i know, you're breaking the rules.
But, please do explain my alleged ToS violation. Go right on ahead. I'll wait.
To Crimson:
You're assuming everybody is just like this and wants to play on the populated server. I -- for example -- specifically choose Tarlach, when I came back to Mabi in 2016, because it had a low population and yet not the lowest. There are people like me who don't want to be hassled by people and just want a quiet life and can actually enjoy being alone, save for a couple friends. Some people don't need a giant server full of AFKs and drama-mongers. They just don't; we have to consider those kinds of people, Crimson. We need to maintain a quiet server that they can choose to play on, rather than be forced to join the loud majority.
No. It is not a fact, because I and many others are a literal embodiment of your falsehood. And just saying the word "facts" doesn't automatically make it a fact; you have to show evidence and your track record of doing that is not looking too good. You are stating an opinion based upon an assumption projected from your own preferences onto the masses and that's all there is to that.The only way something like that could help is if there was more incentive to join and STAY on Alexina, which unfortunately right now there is not. Players prefer more active servers (FACTS)
and when people see that Alexina is a wasteland then it's going to cause them to check out the Nao server. So how do you propose to stop them from doing that? 13 years and that pattern still holds true for any game.
Is that why Tarlach remained higher than both Mari and Ruairi? Because everyone wanted to be on Alexina? The actual fact is that the original three servers clearly had an active enough population on all three to still warrant both return, exploration, and visitation of new and old players; this is why the merge was even conducted in the first place, but you choose to ignore this because you obviously have a personal investment in seeing a final merge happen. How do I know? Because, you're not making objective points; you're making personal points.
You again assume the new player -- and all new players -- simply want to be around loads of people all the time. You have no idea how humans work. They are not all the same, Crimson. You're assuming way too much on basis of way too little. Get out of your echo chamber; not everyone is like you, like your guild(s), or like your friends.Let me paint this picture for you; New player downloads the game. New player creates new character and selects the Alexina server. Player discovers Alexina is pretty much DEAD. There is barely anyone to talk to. New player decides to check out the other server.
Exactly my point with you. Have some capacity for self-reflection, Crimson.You can not control what people do.
I am a fan of options, not absolutes. I proposed a server transfer: the option to move.[/spoiler]
To Julie, Part Two:
You can literally just go to my Inflation threads to find answers to these questions regarding it.Question:
If inflation happens to happen after a merge, what is causing it and why does it happen in the first place? a server merge doesn't simply inflate prices on its own and out of the blue, it doesnt make any sense on its own.
Regarding inflation: You can argue about the lack of space for it, but inflation happens everywhere not just on the other players that isnt you, you can always make some gold by selling some holy water and crafting your own things and take advantage of that situation in making money.
Regarding finding parties: if finding parties of your mid to low tier is difficult for you, then what makes it when youre in Alexina? theres a bigger population of older players than newer ones in that server and theres far far less players around your mid to low tier levels to join you, in this point your making the merge rather works in favor of fixing this issue.
Also for socializing: this in an mmorpg, the entire experience is related to also socializing and working with others to complete quests and missions, not to mention all the social features this game is added through gestures and minigames and what not.
If you want a social circle that badly, go to a place literally designed for that: it's called "social media."
Far too much quote-nesting, but, I will just «hope» that this reply is in a logical sequence.Also here's how Nexon advertises Mabinogi:
over half of the video involves doing numerous activities with others and using the social features mabi has, you cant just tell me that Mabi isnt advertised this way when the literal trailer of this is sitting in the front page in steam to set your expectations of the game.
Momma_Sophie wrote: »To Crimson:
the person unwilling to step into the intellectual boxing ring[/spoiler]
To KelpSoda:
Sorry that being intelligent offends you.
I'll take the comparison to successful, Ivy-League graduate, prominent business owner and talk show host, family-oriented, principle-grounded Ben Shapiro as a compliment. (How is it even an insult?)
The funny part is that I don't even watch his shows.
To Helsa:
There's still no reason to keep presenting this dogmatic viewpoint that a merge is inevitable.
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Momma_Sophie wrote: »To Crimson:
the person unwilling to step into the intellectual boxing ring[/spoiler]See beginning of this response. I score fairly damn high on IQ-tests myself (always have, for my whole entire life, for that matter, historically always up there in the score that was at the lower-echolons of what is consider super-genius levels, but, I have not bothered taking any of those such tests lately, and, who knows if there would be a significant difference between taking those short IQ tests [typically meant for children] versus a really good adult IQ-test [a good test for adults though would take a very long time to evaluate, talking like perhaps, probably months, but, not to digress]).
You don't get to be the referee over these such matters. IF anybody here has the ability to be «fair» and «objective» over these matters, then it would be the one whose post you are reading right now, and, he also happens to have had historical significant-influence over past-directions of both this game and even the company itself (and that will probably continue for as long as he chooses to post pretty much anything that is connected to business-reputation/finance/generating-sales/etc., for reasons I am not going to get that too deep into right now, but, the «physical-products» that they now sell from their Merchandise-store also seems to have come about because of influence from him, just as one of the more «recent» examples).Another personal foul; that's another five yards.
Definite words of wisdom ! The only real factor between ages is experience, but, even then, many people are so dogmatic that, even into their old age, they basically live their whole entire-lives in an «echo-chambre» of experiences/paradigms, thus, rendering their age a non-factor.Your age doesn't mean anything
I guess I will bring this to perspective. She is referring to a certain someone else who posts the almost same topic every month for the last over a whole entire year in the Feedback & Suggestions section. Shouldn't be too difficult to figure out if you just look at the titles of the threads for the first two or three pages... probably. It's almost like «propaganda» in a way. Repeating the same «tired old» message, over, and, over, and, over, and over...Maybe the time you spent in here (which may have been a lot) has skewed your perception of time, i make like a few posts in the single digits a year here maybe even less than 5. I wasnt aware that was spamwE nEeD aLeXiNa SeRvEr MeRgE!
Ah yes, instead of going off to promote this game in other platforms once in a while, it's better to go and spam the hell out of these forums (which it runs on life support by now at this point) at least every 30 days. Great job indeed, a gold medal for consistency. Too bad not for annoyance and forum rule bypass, right?
So glad I barely hang out here anymore.
Beware of what you are interpreting from her exterior. Helsa not going to change her mind, and, for as far as I can tell, happens to be some sort of closet-masochist (/pretends like I don't notice Helsa in the room). And she is definitely dogmatic; even if «smart» that does not mean that they will necessarily «break out» of a «dogmatic» paradigm. Doctors, for example, are amongst the «smartest» people in the world, but, for the most-part, they are still dogmatic (and extremely so). I'm not going to get into too much details about the «CIA» stuff, but, for as far as I cal tell, she is a «statist» and will therefore be dogmatic (/still pretends like I don't notice Helsa in the room).Momma_Sophie wrote: »To Helsa:
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To: KelpSoda:
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@The rest of my antagonists:
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There are other ways, but, please keep in mind that, I am the type of guy who has numerous people needing or demanding my attention for any variety of reasons (namely because I seem to be the only damn guy in this whole entire freaking city with the complicated skill-sets that they need in order to get certain things done for them, and, for that matter, this is not necessarily limited to just this city, either), and, I thus, already have my hands tied (metaphorically) for a variety of reasons to allocate too much «time» into going over all of the «details» of those «solutions...»And of course I will be blamed. Smdh.
I just wanted us to all be together. Hell I am not even on Alexina and want this. I want this for you guys. Can't we all just get along? This thread is doomed if we continue this way.
I'm sorry if you guys don't like my solution but ultimately what is it going to take? I would love to hear what you think should be done because honestly I don't see any other way to achieve this goal.
So thou hast decided to head over to Nao after all ? Alright.see you in nao i guess
Actually, both can be achieved, increasing the population and keeping the servers stable.Momma_Sophie wrote: »To whomever this may concern:-snip-Regarding Merge:
Why is it then that not only is there only one solution, but the only solution possible somehow still remains to be yet another merge? I'd think people who hated merge-related problems would actually be averse to another merge and actively seek other solutions. And yet, we travel down the exact same road. This leads me to believe that something is not right, here. There's too many contradictions, so let's pick a goal: Do we want more population or do we want more stability, because one requires a bit of sacrifice from the other and thus you cannot realistically have both.
Hey, join the club, for, I was also historically always getting attacked all the time...! ;pMomma_Sophie wrote: »I've not once in this entire thread called anyone evil or stupid. Childish, sure. Selfish, you bet. Inconsiderate, 100%. Why? Because asking -- demanding? forcing? -- people to make a sacrifice for your sake is all of that and then some.There is nothing inherently morally superior about avoiding negative at the expense of positive or the other way round or about the status quo over change or the other way around. People have their own desires. Often they are in a zero sum conflict with the desire of others. It doesn't make either evil or stupid.
I'm actually gradually gravitating to a point of doubt after having my own character attacked so many times and not receiving any grace when I correct things. The constant, unprovoked "I'm not evil" claims, especially don't help when followed by more attacks (and lo and behold, there's the attack below from KelpSoda). My patience has worn, Helsa. I'm done with gaslighting and the games. I asked some questions in the last post. I expected answers, not more dodging and more platitudes. If you want to talk about merge, let's talk. Make the case.
EDIT: I'll give you a simple straightforward question, here: Why do you think it's an inevitable thing coming and what can you show me that proves this?
Sometimes I have to pretend to be an idiot in certain situations. Yes, yes, I know this was not directed to me, specifically, but, sometimes it would have been better for me to let people think that I am an idiot so that I am not always so damn constantly in-demand by so many people who need/want my skills for some reason or another... alternatively...: «It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are an idiot... rather than to open it and remove all doubt...» -Mark TwainMomma_Sophie wrote: »It never was advertised that way: You all just decided to claim it was a social/sandbox/whatever-suits-your-current-argument game. The game is advertised as "Your Fantasy Life:" The world's most expressive MMORPG, where you create a unique character and live your fantasy life -- direct quote.
That means if people don't want to socialize in their Fantasy Life, they are free not to do so and not to be forced into situations they do not find comfortable. By the way: learn the definitions of words you use. The term is "unsocial;" not "antisocial."
Also, Use the Nexon Launcher or create another character. You're not an idiot, right? Let's stop pretending to be one.
Are you now ? Damnit, why did I quote this, anyway. I forgot. Everyone should probably start by taking a deep breath at this point...im getting called names because i wanted to use steam features like payment methods wallet and what not on my videogame
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