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  • Merlin, Please.

    Haruhime20 it astounds me that you failed to grasp what the situation really was. Merlin's whole intention at inviting to that tent was to mine you for information on the current state of affairs not to "bed" you. But clearly a topic like a secret order of knights that serve Aton Cimeni can't be talked about in Dunby square. Hence he used the romantic excuse to not raise any question from his peers or onlookers. He was teasing Treasure Hunter on this event he clearly wasn't going to say real reason as that would defeat the purpose of keeping it secret. He might have also enjoyed messing with Treasure Hunter that way as well as a form of revenge from the constant bullying.


    Now as to why your idea of having them all get involved wouldn't work it is quite simple, none of the other Aces even know the Knights exist. Merlin is involved because he met Talvish in the past due to his bunny experiment and so he is actually involved in the plot. Having the others would be pointless as I am sure they have other things to do, and honestly the Knight Illuminati is probably a joke to them.


    tl;dr You never had intimate relations with Merlin, and the decision to include him on the story was deliberate regardless of "looks."

    I actually like the inclusion of Merlin in this gen. Merlin serves as a foil and an outside force to the Knights. Remember this, the Knights stood by while you were being sacrificed to summon out worldly gods because they could not dispute Talvish's argument of his actions being the will of Aton. Merlin, an outsider, who does not know the significance of such an argument is the force that pushes enough doubt and discontent within Altam to make him take action. This ultimately proves that Talvish's actions were not the will of Aton and these events lead him to realize that fact.

    Merlin is powerful enough to stand toe to toe with the Knights, he has knowledge of ancient history, and he's revealed to have met Talvish at a younger age. At the same time his personality makes him a raving madman so the Knights are more confused and baffled then anything, except one thing, Altam shares a bit of a kindred spirit in Merlin. So Merlin's inclusion into the story is used to drive some of the characters to break their own molds.
    violetkittKattheAzureDragonLialinfennixfox
  • PayPal transactions, and a disagreement. thoughts?

    ShouK wrote: »
    So....if what I'm understanding is right, that person wants you to sell gold in return for getting $ on paypal to buy nx from the gold website. Therefore, he can buy the reforges himself, at a cheap price because that gold website offers such deals.
    frankly to me her trying to reject a ingame trade and only do a paypal trade and then give me the gold makes me feel like shes trying to scam me. as anyone who genuinely cares about the other parties concerns would recognise it and do what they need to in order to ensure the other party feels safe during the transaction.

    and what are your thoughts and impressions on this? do you think Paypal trades should be allowed or what? i wanted to hear your thoughts. and if you want what you think of the conversation.
    IMO, he's legit and not trying to scam you. He already explained several times why he wants paypal instead, and even offered to give tons of vouchers if needed.

    However, trying to buy reforges and nx using such methods is another matter. Also, to answer your question, paypal trades are already not allowed according to the rules, so.

    Still not a good idea, OP wants to sell reforges to make her cash, if they don't want reforges, either ask for another cash shop item or just decline the offer. Insisting on getting straight cash when the OP made a completely different offer is more than suspicious and it is far better to be safe than fall into a trap. As for OP, you did the right thing. Buying gold is against the TOS and is punishable by permanent ban.
    Foxgirlkatie
  • Thoughts On G21? (Content And Story)

    No, I actually loved Talvish and Altam here, but I am getting REAL tired of this "Balance is great'" or "Balance is needed" ideal. It sounds nice because of connotations, but it is akin the the "natural is better" fallacy; one is assuming a trait is inherently good in of itself, and arguing everything the trait encompasses as being better.

    This is naive as it is pervasive belief I want laid to rest, because it is one of those things society often emphasizes as great, but neglects to inform us why, leading to a bunch of people accepting it without much thought, based on the glowing connotations we unfairly associate with this or that.

    I disagree. In all the balance stories I've seen, there's been a force that counters that notion. However, I also follow the God of Balance in another game I play (Guthix). It's a problem if there's too much evil in the world, however, I don't think one can hope to truly eliminate evil. So the best one can do is to achieve balance in that regard. If one could eradicate evil that would be different.

    Balance implies evil is necessary to perform and to exist. I disagree entirely. What you are discussing is what I said previously, but the notion we should not have too much of anything without its opposite is fallacious in nature, and is a case by case basis.

    Should have is not the equivalent to would have.

    I ask you this. Do individuals like Ted Bundy or Pol Pot need to exist, or would they invariably have existed anyway in some shape or form? This is a loaded question, but this emphasizes my point regarding how I perceive "balance". The logic would lead to consistent applications I find unsavory.

    Would we have to save individuals of low moral principles if there is far too much good hearted people in the world? Do we have to kill those who are a blessing to this world in order to preserve balance?

    I believe I am misunderstanding your viewpoint, but where lies the inherent good in balance, or rather, how do you define a "Good" balance?

    I think you're missing the point about Talvish's reasoning. He's been alive for so long and subjected to so much evils of the world that his world view became warped and twisted. Worst of all, he assumes that because his power with Aton had not diminished even if he took such actions means that it was all according to Aton's will. Talvish later confesses to you that he was created as a tool, a sword to Aton, and that he never really felt the need to think for himself besides fulfilling the will of Aton. He didn't realize that he had free will and Aton let him have free reign with his power to do with as he pleases. Remember this, Talvish cannot truly empathize with the Knights or any of his descendants because of his origins. He received power and direction from the big man himself and in many ways, is an existence very much similar to the Millitian's in his great power and long life span. His journey of self discovery is a parallel to the Millitian's own adventures. Like the Millitian he was initially given a mandate to protect the world by a deity (Aton for Talvish and Morrighan for the Millitian) and achieved great power as the champions of the gods. Then through out his adventures he would be subjected to trials, loss, and tribulations, much like the Millitian his optimism and outlook would have eroded, leaving his views to be warped. This is why the battle between the Millitian and Talvish was not a duel to the death like other bosses. Talvish was a reflection of the kind of view the Millitian could've come to, both beings capable of both good and evil and how they deal with that. Talvish sought to perfectly balance misery and and happiness while the Millitian choose to pursue happiness in spite of misery.

    When the Millitian obtained Divinity as well, Talvish realized something. He was wrong, all the atrocities he committed was not in the will of Aton, it was his own. The Millitian wielding both out worldly power and Erinn's power while having a completely different goal and mindset showed him that Aton's will was not as imposed on him as he thought. He broke off the the fight because he was reconciling with the fact he followed his own will, and that he didn't like what he became in that pursuit. This is why he leaves at the end, with the knowledge that he has his own will, he left to find himself, to build himself again, something that HE wants to be rather than the expectations of a Aton that has long since let him reign.

    This is why I still enjoy Talvish as a character and I can't hate him at all. He did what he thought was the will of his God and when the world view shattered, he was able to stop before going too far and look at his mistakes and is taking steps to correct them.

    Yorozuya
  • Thoughts On G21? (Content And Story)

    Greta wrote: »
    Leinei wrote: »
    Immortality is immunity to being killed, not biological immortality where natural means induced by age or illness fail to take effect, or nigh-invulnerability, where an entity is merely far more resilient.

    Neamhain seemed to get pretty close to being killed by Nuadha.

    Also what about Macha? I really did not understand the plot of hers fully, but we did actually defeat her at Saga I? She poofed into nothingness.

    We weren't even close, she only stopped because her summon ritual was interrupted and she couldn't materialize anymore. She's sealed, but definitely not dead.
    VeylaineMhaolLeinei
  • Thoughts On G21? (Content And Story)

    Leinei wrote: »
    GTCvActium wrote: »
    When Talvish "ascends", he actually is at the very least on par with a 3rd tier god, or in the same rank as Morrighan. But before that he was able to repeal Cichol who is also a 3rd tier god so yeah, Altam went up against someone who could stand against a physical god. Yes, they explicitly stated that the Elder's body infused with unholy light would be stronger than Morrighan, and ascended Talvish is basically that.
    Third tier? What makes up the other two? I know Aton Cimeni would probably be Top tier, but who would be second?

    Also, lol this thread is going to be a LOT of spoiler tags before we're done with it. XD
    The Pantheon of Erinn has 3 tiers of deities, Tier 1, 2, and 3. Aton Cimeni is Tier 1 and its stated that among his powers are perfect immortality. He is utterly unkillable in Erinn and the only probably way is to probably destroy the entire world to do him in. Tier 2 contain 3 gods: Hymerark, Lymilark and Jeamiderark who are all under the direct command of Aton. There isn't much information on them besides them being stronger than Tier 3 deities. Presumably they also have perfect immortality as well. The last tier is 3, this is were the bulk of the gods we interact with reside. Morrighan, Cichol, Nuadha, Neamhain and Macha all reside in this tier, as with other unnamed or less mentioned gods. They have immortality but can be killed if they take enough damage. Gods of this tier are openly stated to have powers over time and space and can manipulate the material world in ways that Mana just can't. Anything else with divine power are below tier 3 and are generally tools, servants, or followers of the upper tiers of gods. Incidentally, the Millitan themselves fall under the "servants" tier and are technically of similar rank to Nao who presides over the soul stream. Though another Divinity might actually put them pretty close to tier 3, given how much power boost the other deity grants.

    Leinei