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Mabinogi Direct Launch Ending March 16th

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  • RoyaltyRoyalty
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    edited March 5, 2017
    no....no....NOOOOOO
    why direct launcher about to closed? I love it :(

    And yes I used nexon launcher before. It works until the buggy play button does not work. Even repair does not work and still say "still in game" like whatt?? I am not the only person that have this problem, other players as well. So in able to log in into Mabinogi, I have to re-install the WHOLE patch so I can play only Mabinogi. No. Thank. You.

    I will give this another shot. If this does not work for me, I will quit this game for sure. No point of trying this so many times until nexon launcher is able to work for me. Why am I playing this if Nexon Launcher fails on me.
  • PlatinaKokiPlatinaKoki
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    edited March 5, 2017
    Aquasol wrote: »
    Ninzerker wrote: »
    Original post mentions changes being made to Launcher, I'm talking about the beta test of THAT launcher, not the broken one we've had for years. They need to actually get some feedback to see if they actually FIX the majority of the problems, instead of just rolling out with a new and untested one with a slew of it's own bugs and problems

    It's referring to the outdated .exe launcher, as well as other patching methods. You can submit tickets relating to errors occurring with the Launcher under the Technical Support category of the Support page. That's to everyone's benefit.

    "Outdated". More like "Outdated, but still, overall, more efficient than the other two methods."
    Aquasol wrote: »
    Ninzerker wrote: »
    Are you deliberately trying to make yourself look the fool? The current Launcher is not, and cannot be representative as a beta, as they are making "improvements and updates" to it. What needs to be in beta is the CHANGED and UPDATED launcher.

    Look, I'm not trying to get into a fight or anything, I'm just trying to figure out what it is you're saying, because it's contradictory. Programs get updated and tweaked, that doesn't mean they're still in beta. If you're talking about a testing period for using NxL to open Mabi, that's kind of been a thing already.
    Ninzerker wrote: »
    I'm not talking about every bug ever, I'm talking about BASIC FUNCTIONALITY, in which right now? There isn't any.
    You honestly think that they can properly create wide spectrum improvements while working in a vacuum? No! They need feedback, testing on different PC, Laptops, Operating Systems, BEFORE they launch!

    Now if only they could somehow find a way to get a number of players to help with these things! WHOA! Crazy idea right?
    It's almost like getting a larger variety of wood and saws to work with!

    The Launcher may not be working for you, for reasons unknown to me and which you could report if that's the case, in order to see if there's something that can be fixed on your end and/or noted for theirs. They've been getting feedback on it, from a variety of players. Vindictus hasn't had a direct launch for awhile now, so it's not really some untested thing, and Mabi's had it as an option just as well(not to mention the other titles like Ghost in the Shell and Riders of Icarus). Note that you can still use Steam to launch the game.

    The point I think we're trying to make is that there is no legitimate reason for removing the Direct Launch.
    Liberate
  • Dai_Mata_ReiDai_Mata_Rei
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    launching through steam is a lot better than the launcher. and steam ACTUALLY keeps you signed in and auto updates the game for you. and also you have the option of having an fps counter while in game. so this is basically to limit control on players. not a smart move nexon. mabi's already starting to die. we need things that'll revive it not kill it like the forced launcher will.
  • NegumikoNegumiko
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    launching through steam is a lot better than the launcher. and steam ACTUALLY keeps you signed in and auto updates the game for you. and also you have the option of having an fps counter while in game. so this is basically to limit control on players. not a smart move nexon. mabi's already starting to die. we need things that'll revive it not kill it like the forced launcher will.

    Steam is a much better option which is why I hope Nexon is smart enough to keep using the Steam version. Plus Nexon says in there post that Nexon Launcher will update even while you are in the game but Steam gives you a choice so you can update when your ready. I am not looking forward to Nexon Launcher downloading a update and lagging me while I play as my internet already has bad speed quite often. Using the Steam version has never caused any major lag issues in mabi and usually when I do lag it is my internet going bad or mabi.

  • TNinjaTNinja
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    Fun fact: Mabinogi is not available on Steam for European.
  • PlatinaKokiPlatinaKoki
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    TNinja wrote: »
    Fun fact: Mabinogi is not available on Steam for European.
    That's true; if the Nexon Launcher doesn't work for any European player, that's essentially it for them.
  • GretaGreta
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    Darn, i forgot some popcorns for this. This QQ'ing is really enjoyable.
    PreciousWolf
  • Jag272Jag272
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    TNinja wrote: »
    Fun fact: Mabinogi is not available on Steam for European.
    That's true; if the Nexon Launcher doesn't work for any European player, that's essentially it for them.
    You would hope this would get resolved, since Nexon NA and Nexon EU are merging to become Nexon Global, as has already happened with Vindy. Whether they actually bother updating steam to reflect that, only time will tell, but I certainly hope that if theyre updating the launcher, they'll get round to adding it to EU steam too.

    That or they pull a Uplay and update steam to just open the Nexon Launcher for 2 layers of DRM, which would be fun for all.
  • PlatinaKokiPlatinaKoki
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    Jag272 wrote: »
    TNinja wrote: »
    Fun fact: Mabinogi is not available on Steam for European.
    That's true; if the Nexon Launcher doesn't work for any European player, that's essentially it for them.
    You would hope this would get resolved, since Nexon NA and Nexon EU are merging to become Nexon Global, as has already happened with Vindy. Whether they actually bother updating steam to reflect that, only time will tell, but I certainly hope that if theyre updating the launcher, they'll get round to adding it to EU steam too.

    That or they pull a Uplay and update steam to just open the Nexon Launcher for 2 layers of DRM, which would be fun for all.

    Oh? Vindi NA and EU have fused? When did this happen?
  • AquasolAquasol
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    Oh? Vindi NA and EU have fused? When did this happen?

    It was announced last year, though the completed merger game-wise happened just a few weeks ago.
  • Jag272Jag272
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    Aquasol wrote: »
    Oh? Vindi NA and EU have fused? When did this happen?

    It was announced last year, though the completed merger game-wise happened just a few weeks ago.

    Ye it officially happened 16th Feb and prior to the delays (it was originally announced for like october last year and got delayed) they were referring to "Nexon Global" frequently, indeed some of the GMs over there were asked by users what happens to their jobs etc and responded that some of them had no place in Global. So it would seem that gradually Nexon NA and EU are going to become Global, though based on prior delays, general quietness on the topic etc I imagine its a long and complicated process.

    But ye Vindictus officially merged recently, and I believe some other EU games are on the merging list too. Theres an official FAQ here mentioning maplestory, vindictus, war rock and combat arms as being on the merging list.
  • djnikodjniko
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    Dunno where to post this since it isnt technically a technical support thing and just a question but.

    Since nexon is for some whatever reason stopping that, what will steam do? Will it just launch the new nexon game starter?
    I never liked the new nexon launcher so Ive just stuck with what Ive always done for the past 6 years, which is the direct launch. Much more faster to start up and the newer launcher thing that nexon has doesnt seem to agree with my newly built computer as well.
  • CrimsọnCrimsọn
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    edited March 9, 2017
    It is not going to effect steam launch. You just won't be able to launch the executable directly. Supposedly that also means through the steam files. I am definitely going to test that though after the 16th.

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Mabinogi

    I mean are they going to try and hide the file? -shrugs-
    Helsa
  • djnikodjniko
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    Gaea steam uses the direct launch feature to start it up. Which is why I had the question.
  • CrimsọnCrimsọn
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    djniko wrote: »
    Gaea steam uses the direct launch feature to start it up. Which is why I had the question.

    Tbh they haven't really responded to us about the steam launch. We all just assume that steam will still work. I mean why would they sever their ties to Steam which provides this game a little more exposure? :|
    Helsa
  • Jag272Jag272
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    Gaea wrote: »
    djniko wrote: »
    Gaea steam uses the direct launch feature to start it up. Which is why I had the question.

    Tbh they haven't really responded to us about the steam launch. We all just assume that steam will still work. I mean why would they sever their ties to Steam which provides this game a little more exposure? :|
    They could pull a Ubisoft with Uplay and just have steam boot the Nexon launcher which then boots the game, though i really hope not lol
    Brightheart
  • XiokunXiokun
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    Jag272 wrote: »
    Gaea wrote: »
    djniko wrote: »
    Gaea steam uses the direct launch feature to start it up. Which is why I had the question.

    Tbh they haven't really responded to us about the steam launch. We all just assume that steam will still work. I mean why would they sever their ties to Steam which provides this game a little more exposure? :|
    They could pull a Ubisoft with Uplay and just have steam boot the Nexon launcher which then boots the game, though i really hope not lol

    Don't even say it. Here's some wood to knock on.
  • CrimsọnCrimsọn
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    Xiokun wrote: »
    Jag272 wrote: »
    Gaea wrote: »
    djniko wrote: »
    Gaea steam uses the direct launch feature to start it up. Which is why I had the question.

    Tbh they haven't really responded to us about the steam launch. We all just assume that steam will still work. I mean why would they sever their ties to Steam which provides this game a little more exposure? :|
    They could pull a Ubisoft with Uplay and just have steam boot the Nexon launcher which then boots the game, though i really hope not lol

    Don't even say it. Here's some wood to knock on.

    I think this is going to break it.
    Helsa
  • MediaKleptoMediaKlepto
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    Gaea wrote: »
    djniko wrote: »
    Gaea steam uses the direct launch feature to start it up. Which is why I had the question.

    Tbh they haven't really responded to us about the steam launch. We all just assume that steam will still work. I mean why would they sever their ties to Steam which provides this game a little more exposure? :|
    Even through contacting customer support - who should have been handed the necessary answers so they could at least get a handle one what's bound to be irrate customers - the sum extent of the answer I got about Steam launching after the update was "we have no information" via a ticket and "we don't know" via a chat.

    My main concern was the same as djniko's, as Steam runs the game via the direct launch method, as a platform not a launcher. Unless the two different direct launchers ARE in fact actually built differently (which very well could be the case), it's entirely possible that they're severing Steam launching as well, and pitching the game into an even more steep downward spiral of non-exposure and poor decisions. I'm hoping this isn't the case, as are many of my friends and others on this post alone.
  • NegumikoNegumiko
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    Gaea wrote: »
    djniko wrote: »
    Gaea steam uses the direct launch feature to start it up. Which is why I had the question.

    Tbh they haven't really responded to us about the steam launch. We all just assume that steam will still work. I mean why would they sever their ties to Steam which provides this game a little more exposure? :|
    Even through contacting customer support - who should have been handed the necessary answers so they could at least get a handle one what's bound to be irrate customers - the sum extent of the answer I got about Steam launching after the update was "we have no information" via a ticket and "we don't know" via a chat.

    My main concern was the same as djniko's, as Steam runs the game via the direct launch method, as a platform not a launcher. Unless the two different direct launchers ARE in fact actually built differently (which very well could be the case), it's entirely possible that they're severing Steam launching as well, and pitching the game into an even more steep downward spiral of non-exposure and poor decisions. I'm hoping this isn't the case, as are many of my friends and others on this post alone.

    it is still unknown if the steam launcher will effected or not but I downloaded mabi on nexon launcher just in case and checked both mabi folders. the steam version has a nxsteam file which reads as Nexon Steam Launcher in the description. not sure if that means the steam version launches slightly differently or not but I thought it was something worth pointing out. keeping up the steam version gives the game more advertising so it would be pointless to take it down. hopefully steam mabi will still work after this.