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Closed Talk: does archery need rebalanced?
I don't use archery myself, but I have noticed a distinct lack of players using archery. They use literally everything else, but I have never seen high-end players utilize archery. Is this because archery is unbalanced? Just curious.
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Though, it would be nice if shots that missed were completely negated by the Sniper title. I mean, what kind of archer are you if you miss like 75% of the time due to displacement...? >.<
and doesn't need to spend time aiming...
and loads skills instantly or doesn't need to load at all.
ammo is cheap, and easy to carry (1k bullets. each of which is worth a full magazine. so...like 36k to 64k shots)
can use any armor
compare that to archery.
missing so much on 95%(i swear the % its showing is incorrect. cause when you miss 80% of your 95% aim shots. but hit 60% of your 50% shots...)
aiming sometimes taking surprisingly long
archery skill takes time to begin aiming, and sometimes delays where it loads....but wont start aiming.
fully aimed and spam click to fire but it wont as enemy walks toward you and hits you cause you've been 99% aimed for 5 seconds but it wont fire.
gotta carry tons of arrows that take up alot of space
and can't use heavy armor cause dex is screwed
it doesn't need a rebalance...it needs a reWORK.
I have 1k+dex and use an ele6 bdk
At endgame, with r1 range reforged bohem set, r6 bfafel and magnum combo card, it's one of the best skills. At that point the only thing bad about it is final shot. Final shot needs to be buffed to be like final hit with more duration less cooldown and no durability loss
Also, bring combo card pieces back permanently to replace the currently dropped combo cards in all places. Some people still have custom made cards, while for others they're impossible to get. That's pretty unfair, especailly to those who came after the event. I didn't, though I was too weak to work for one at the time, let alone being able to choose which talent I'd actually want to stick with.
Also, elf lag. Happens all the damn time still.
1. Tweak Final Shot to make it better... maybe make it so you don't lose durability during the duration of Final Shot and rescale the Final Shot reforges to be on par with Final Shot?
2. Make Elven Magic Missile be useable outside the Falcon transformation. Make actually tweak around with both bow and wand so they're actually not crap and elves would actually use them. Seriously though, giant rebalance patch made it so Giant Full Swing is useable outside of transformation... why not Elven Magic Missile too?
3. Mirage Missile... I rarely see anyone using them and it's not that good even after it got revamped still... so I'm not sure how to tweak the skill so it'd actually be useful... any ideas?
But what it does need is it's mechanics overhauled. The aim meter needs to be removed, and just make it 100% hit as the issue with archery is it was designed for the high end networking infrastructure, and size of South Korea so there is no issues with it. It's problem arises when the lag between server, and clients are 100X larger then it was designed to deal with. Now to sorta re-balance it they could add a charge time of a second to fire, but remove the aim%(just for a quick idea, but could prolly be figured out better).
Who did you hear this from?;
From an elf.
However, I wouldn't say archery is for the "rich". Rather it is *NOT* for anyone who is worried about "keeping up with the joneses". If you're going to get squeamish every time humans bring out the final hit, archer is not for you. People attempt to make up for this with reforges. They are not required by any means, but I think people feel embarrassed not to have them.
I have always said the strength in archery is not pure damage, but kiting and minimal multiaggro. You can pick off enemies one at a time without getting dogpiled if you are careful, allowing you to solo things you typically couldn't as long as you have a bit of patience. (Notice the archery Enn form is the "form of patience"?) An elf on a crystal deer can fire, hide, throw off aggro, and fire again, doing slow but safe damage repeatedly. (A technique used to solo Rabbie Phantasm.) Magnum is heaviest damage, Support shot fires very fast, normal attack (on elves) hits twice and helps hold back enemies that magnum cannot, mirage slows and DoTs, etc.
Now, if you're an elf in a fast moving group and archery ends up being a 3rd wheel, try something like magic. If you want to melee, get a big 'ol celtic hammer or axe. They'll do decent smashes and bashes even on an elf. (Source: Violence is fun....)
Kiting is useless since most of the time you're stuck in a room. Also alot of monsters just run too fast to kite. Even if you mirage if you miss well you're dead.
The crystal deer thing is just a gimmick. I don't even think the pet was designed to be used in combat like that. Archery requiring a pet to be good is just wrong. Also the last time it was on sale was in 2014.
Thing is, archery gets whined about because it's not "good enough". Translation: It's not final hit. Yeah, we get it. I melee in dragon raids anyway. Why? Because that's not exactly time for being a sneaky elf. All the contribution points seem to come from use of smash anyway.
Back to the OP, the reason you don't see others using archery is it's slow and better suited for soloing stuff where multiaggro would kill you. (Think Alban Heroic, AAHM, etc...) Someone who uses archery to solo content will probably pull out a "faster" skillset for group use. (Unless Ladeca is up... then pew pew pew!!!!)
EDIT: Also, lots of portias in here..darn. Maybe I'm really growing to favor having custom avatars again after all, this is just needlessly confusing.
Since quitting and selling all my stuff, my new set isn't as great. I do use archery and close combat primarily and I have to say, I hardly ever use archery. Close combat is much easier to get into and way efficient. I only use archery because it was my staple back in the day. Honestly, gunner or even puppetry would be a better 2nd. I even used merlin knuckles for secondary for a while and it was more fun. Archery is stressful, inefficient, and extremely costly. It needs to be reworked.
Also egoes need to be revamped k.
Just my 2 cents
(Looking at elf's mag spam with final shot + ladeca)